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BMW 5-Series: Next E60

46 messages,  Last post on Mar 16, 2007 at 12:24 PM

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Re: The facelift: where’s the manual transmission? [designman] by shipo
Jan 13, 2007 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: designman (Jan 13, 2007 1:10 pm)

I cannot imagine BMW not offering a manual gearbox in the 5er, especially after the hue and cry that went out about the SMG only M5. At this point, I don't think it's anything to worry about.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: 2008 or 9? [texases] by uglybear
Jan 13, 2007 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 12, 2007 8:50 pm)

Well... why did they buy BMWs then? I think you should try iDrive yourself first. As I said, I am not a big fan of it, but it's OK. In 2006-2007 models you can program 2 steering wheen buttons to quickly call up functions you use most often, like radio, for example. You can also use voice activation. In 2008 model you can program six custom buttons, so all this 'too many menus' thing does not matter much anymore. Or ask dealer to program them for you at delivery.
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Please buy a Hundai/Pontiac/KIA or whatever by banglenot
Jan 14, 2007 (7:43 am)
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Had several 5's and second E60 with an '07 bought a few weeks ago.
 
I agree with uglybear and achonko. Please, if someone can't tell the difference between a 5 series and a Pontiac/Hundai or whatever, they should buy the Pontiac/Hundai. They'd be wasting their money on one of the finest driving cars ever made. Rattle around in the Pontiac/Hundai and enjoy it. Really.
 
I've tested the relevant MB, Audi, Lexus and Infiniti's. They have their individual advantages but none drive as well as the BMW. Steering and braking are simply not anywhere near as good in the comparable price ranges. Drift around a curve in your BMW and see when the wheels start to break loose. Do the same in your non-BMW and have fun among the trees and brush.
 
For the record, I'm in my mid 50's. Idrive is easy, and has improved over the years. They needed certain idrive design improvements and are making many of them in the upcoming redesign -- more programmable and one-function buttons, for example.
 
The bluetooth connection to my blackberry 8700 is smooth and effective; the included voice recognition works fine. My wife needs an auto tranny so I have the Step -- but in manual mode it does quite well and revs nicely to 6500 with good torque and HP.
   
Having owned E39's, I've never been in love with Bangle's designs (hence my screen name), but note that virtually every other car company is following it and sales are up. BMW led with a mold-breaking design and I'm giving them credit for that. I'll also give them credit for re-evolving certain items, like Idrive and replacing the window controls where they belong. The cupholders are crap and the weird storage compartments never made much sense, but that's pretty much been the case with BMW's forever. The E39, though possibly the best reasonably-priced sedan ever made, was getting tired.
 
That said, nothing else out there drives like a 5. So, not to be too harsh, if they don't like it, they should buy something else. My vote is that the redesign as described on the bmwusa website is making some good choices.
 
Oh, BTW, did I mention the handling?
#30 of 46
Re: Starting to hear the the E60 will get... [div2] by banglenot
Jan 14, 2007 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: div2 (Aug 01, 2006 12:03 pm)

"glass cockpit"
 
Now that would be nice.
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Re: The facelift: where’s the manual transmission? [shipo] by sixpaqs
Jan 15, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 13, 2007 2:51 pm)

Not to worry, the entire 528i, 535i, and 550i will all be available with the 6 speed manual. I read it in their press release. They are just making a big deal out of this sport automatic transmission, which I hope is not another name for that SMG thing, which is horrible, imo.
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Re: 2008 5 Series vs. F10? [pearl] by achonko
Jan 15, 2007 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: pearl (Jan 13, 2007 6:20 am)

I stand to be corrected. The F01 (7 series) and not the F10 (5 series) is due to be released as MY 2009 in 2008.
The F10 will be released in 2009 as a MY 2010 product.
My apologies for the misinformation.
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Re: 2008 5 Series vs. F10? [achonko] by skobola
Jan 15, 2007 (10:57 pm)
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Replying to: achonko (Jan 15, 2007 7:32 pm)

Are you sure? Per BMW's math, the new 5-series should get out as 2011, as they have a 7-year cycle, which makes the 7-series introduction correct as well.
#34 of 46
Availability? by exis350
Feb 04, 2007 (6:45 pm)
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What exactly does "going into production in March" actually mean? That they'll be available in March? That they're being built and won't be available until April/May?
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Re: Availability? [exis350] by shipo
Feb 04, 2007 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: exis350 (Feb 04, 2007 6:45 pm)

Usually the latter.
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Re: Availability? [exis350] by achonko
Feb 06, 2007 (8:30 pm)
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Replying to: exis350 (Feb 04, 2007 6:45 pm)

My source still believes the F10 is due for debut in 2009.

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