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BMW 5-Series: Next E60

46 messages,  Last post on Mar 16, 2007 at 12:24 PM

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Re: New E60 or Hundai Sonata [designman] by low_ball_88
Aug 18, 2006 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: designman (Aug 18, 2006 11:07 am)

For the price, Sonata is good deal.
 
Oh designman, before I continue, let me get the Fruit-O-Loom wedgy out of my crck. LMAO
 
As for the:
3 coupe - bland
Redesigned x5 - 3 series on stilts, just look at the front end and tail lights
7 - you got me there, it is pretty nice except for the bland front end, the rear is a nice change.
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Re: New E60 or Hundai Sonata [low_ball_88] by warthog
Aug 19, 2006 (2:13 am)
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Replying to: low_ball_88 (Aug 18, 2006 9:53 am)

"I guess BMW is following the others (Lexus, MBZ, Infiniti) and have the line up of cars all look the same from the smallest to the largest vehicle. Just pick your size."
 
Actually, BMW has done that for years.
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Re: New E60 or Hundai Sonata [warthog] by low_ball_88
Aug 19, 2006 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: warthog (Aug 19, 2006 2:13 am)

That is why I like the current 5. It does not fit the mold. Now others are copying it. Look at the Lexus lineup and the Toyota Camry. They now all have the Bangle rump. BMW and MBZ have always been the design leaders. Just hate to see that the whole lineup all look similar.
 
JMHO
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2009 Major 5-series Update... by manybmws
Sep 04, 2006 (5:07 am)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=116690
 
I think this may happen versus a minor update in '08. Looks like it will get streamlined on the outside and the inside will connect the dash to the rest of the console which are both good things. The E60 has been viewed right from the start as a controversial design as everyone knows and BMW can't wait to bring the 5-series car back into celebrity status like the E39 was to boost sales. I am putting my order on a 535xi
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Re: 2009 Major 5-series Update... [manybmws] by pearl
Sep 12, 2006 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: manybmws (Sep 04, 2006 5:07 am)

Let's hope that BMW dumps the I-drive while they are at it. They should buy a new Lexus with Gen 5 Nav and copy that, or similar. Perpetuating I-Drive in the face of nearly universal criticism for the past five years would be absurd.
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Re: 2009 Major 5-series Update... [pearl] by uglybear
Jan 06, 2007 (10:16 pm)
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Replying to: pearl (Sep 12, 2006 7:27 pm)

BMW sales are up. So they are listening to customers, not to magazine reviewers. Although I am not fan of iDrive, I sometimes feel that magazine reviewers are simply computer-retarded old farts that keep dreaming of the "golden days of their youth".
 
Customers vote with money and if sales are up even with weak dollar, mayb BMW is right ignoring c&D and others.
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Re: 2008 or 9? [lzc] by achonko
Jan 07, 2007 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: lzc (Aug 18, 2006 8:49 am)

"When is the next E60 expected? I'd read, somewhere on a BMW thread here, that a facelift was expected in spring 2007 as a 2008 model. But my barber had a car mag (sorry, didn't pay attention to which one) that featured the new 2009 model".
 
The E60 facelift is due to hit show rooms in the Spring of 2007 as a MY 2008.
The F10, will be sold as MY 2009 in the Spring of 2008.
 
"BMW sales are up. So they are listening to customers, not to magazine reviewers. Although I am not fan of iDrive, I sometimes feel that magazine reviewers are simply computer-retarded old farts that keep dreaming of the "golden days of their youth.
Customers vote with money and if sales are up even with weak dollar, mayb BMW is right ignoring c&D and others
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Most Car critics are not tech savvy, and at best comfortable with Cars that are elemental in nature. The IDrive is perceived to be complex, however I find it simple to use, and my wife also finds it very easy to use as well.
The design of the 5 series albeit controversial, is modern and stands out from the rest of the traffic. I think the 5 series and the 7 series has revitalised car designs that were otherwise boring.
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Re: 2008 or 9? [achonko] by texases
Jan 12, 2007 (8:50 pm)
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Replying to: achonko (Jan 07, 2007 5:50 pm)

I've not criticized iDrive (until now) because, even though the mags made a convincing case that it's a mistake, I had no first-hand knowledge. Just got back from a drive with a client, who went on for 20 minutes about how he, and his friends with BMWs, hate it. I'm sure there are folks that do o.k. with it, but I won't be one. A shame, I've finally got to the point of buying a 530, wanted one since '80, now I don't want one...
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2008 5 Series vs. F10? by pearl
Jan 13, 2007 (6:20 am)
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Edmunds and others have discussed the new BMW "F10" as a possible E60 replacement in 2009, featuring softened "Banglisms" and other improvements. At the same time, BMW has just announced the new 2008 E60/5 series (see future vehicles on the bmwusa.com site for details and pics), which feature some, but not all of the postulated changes. It would seem strange for BMW to make so many changes to the 08 5 Series, then replace it a year later. This is not in keeping with their philosophy (see E39) in which the overall design runs about seven or eight years. It would seem that the 08 5 series is the "mid-point" refresh, and that any all new 5 series won't show up until the 2011/12 timeframe; therefore, the "F10" may be the 08 5 series. Anyone have other info?
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The facelift: where’s the manual transmission? by designman
Jan 13, 2007 (1:10 pm)
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The external facelift is virtually imperceptible. But, the thing that caught my attention is that there is no mention of a manual transmission for the 528 and 535 in the Overview and Press Release on the BMW website. It refers only to the new standard automatic and optional automatic, yet there is distinct mention of MT with the 550. Should we entertain negative thoughts, or is it just an error of omission due to the nature (lack of detail) of the announcements? The way it reads is suspicious.

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