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Sedans Lexus ES ES 350 Reviews News (Road Tests, Reviews from C&D, R&T, CR, IL, etc.)
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Replying to: priggly (May 02, 2006 11:52 pm) SLOW!!!!! How can you make such a comment? Slow compared to what? Look at these times listed in Consumer Reports; Ford Mustang 0-60 mph, sec. 7.5 Nissan Altima 0-60 mph, sec. 8.9 Nissan Maxima 0-60 mph, sec. 6.8 Acura RL 0-60 mph, sec. 6.9 Infiniti M35/M45 0-60 mph, sec. 7.0 Audi A4 0-60 mph, sec. 8.3 BMW 3 Series 0-60 mph, sec. 7.4 So how is 7.2 seconds to 60 SLOW?!!! What car is faster of this weight, price range etc? I don't want to hear such and such a car is 2 or 3 tenths of second faster. It's a moot point. it has no relation in real world driving. Where do you have to be so quickly? So you have to go 0-60 10 times on the way to work, and you get there 2 seconds later?!!!! Wake up 5 minutes earlier in the morning!!! Do you floor it at every light to get it to 60? Most people are a bit more gradual. The ES is NOT slow. If you want a faster car buy a Lexus IS or a sports car, but I bet that won't be as safe, or it will burn a lot more gas. I'm just tired of hearing these unfair negative comments about this car. ------------------- Lexus is promoting smoking?!!! OH MY! So you buy a Lexus ES and notice the ashtray. So you're going to look at it and say: "Hey, I think I'll take up smoking because there is an ashtray there!!!" Such a moron needs to be goggled up by Natural Selection. Sheeeeeesh!!!!
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Replying to: priggly (May 02, 2006 11:52 pm) I'm not knocking the ES. My wife has a '99 ES 300 & loves it. It's smooth, stylish & troublefree. Those are the qualities that she looks for in her car, & that's why she'll probably buy the new ES 350. It wouldn't be my choice - I like RWD & 3 pedals on the floor - but then it's not my turn for a new car. |
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Replying to: bobbyshred (May 03, 2006 2:42 am) The TL- 6.5 seconds  "I'm just tired of hearing these unfair negative comments about this car." Dude, enhance your calm. This is a discussion. People are going to differ in their opinions over the new ES, which by the way IMO is vastly improved over the previous model. God forbid- somebody having a different opinion than the one you hold 
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Replying to: bobbyshred (May 03, 2006 2:42 am) If you want a faster car buy a Lexus IS or a sports car, but I bet that won't be as safe, or it will burn a lot more gas. Yes, the ES 350 at 7.2 seconds to 60 mph IS slow. Car and Driver timed the new Lincoln Zephyr which has 221 HP and a measly 205 ft.-lb. of torque at 7.3 sec. to 60. The new Buick Lucerne CXS' 0-60 time is 6.9 sec. By those metrics the Lexus is most certainly tortoise-like, especially in comparison to the Lincoln. Why is the car's powertrain so inefficient that it can't harness the stated HP and torque into a less leisurely time than 7.2 seconds to 60??! Moreover, any car in this price range and segment had better be faster to 60 than 7.0 sec. Additionally, one does not have to drive the car like a fiend to appreciate the potential power, it's just nice to know it's there considering the cost and cachet of the marque. As for the IS, it is an overpriced car for midgets. And by including a fag tray in the car, Lexus most certainly is making a statement that it at least tacitly approves of nicotine addiction. Now that is disgusting. |
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Replying to: ggesq (May 03, 2006 4:03 am) God forbid- somebody having a different opinion than the one you hold Well said, ggesq. Ol' Shred seems to have a thin skin when it comes to defending the car's deficits. And I agree, the ES is much improved over the previous version even though the acceleration doesn't pass muster in my book. |
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Replying to: priggly (May 03, 2006 7:17 am) the ES is likely faster than any similar car that was put on the market 5 years ago, but now that is "slow"??? so what if it is not "as fast" as its competitors - that does not make it "slow" if the car is too slow for you, then don't buy one. as to the ASH tray - many of us use it for other purposes, and many people smoke other than cigarettes - I guess you'd rather they flick ashes out the window. THAT, my friends, is disgusting. Lexus is making a statement that it does not approve of people throwing lit matches or burning cigarettes out of your car. Thank you, Lexus, for saving us from cigarette smoker's most disgusting and more prevalent habit, usually caused by smokers who DON'T HAVE ASH TRAYS!
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Replying to: priggly (May 03, 2006 7:17 am) A 6.8 time to 60 is not slow at all. In fact I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see one of the major car mags find out it's even faster.
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Replying to: alp8 (May 03, 2006 7:28 am) One slight problem with your logic: it's now 2006, not 2001. as to the ASH tray - many of us use it for other purposes, and many people smoke other than cigarettes - I guess you'd rather they flick ashes out the window. If they smoke anything, that is disgusting. They should not have any ashes to "flick" anywhere. If the space is to be used for other than the facilitation of nicotine (or other substance as per your comment) addiction, then it should be so designed by Lexus designers rather than attempting to curry favor with those who would pollute the environment while attempting to damage their own health as well as the health of others. If other car manufacturers, who are obviously more socially conscious, can design fag trays out of their cars, why can't Lexus? Any attempt to intellectually condone or salute this behavior implies complicity with it. |
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Replying to: psychdoc (May 03, 2006 7:33 am) I agree. 6.8 is fine, 7.2 is not.
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