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#2 of 41 Tires on the New ES 350
by rphwack
Aug 01, 2006 (12:08 pm)
I am from the east coast and have recently purchased a Ruby Red/Black ES350. I am very happy with my choice. I was curious though about the tire brands that are on the ES 350. In the East coast they put on the Michelin Energy tires . While in Las Vegas I noticed that they put on the Toyo Proxes. Is there any difference between the two. Are the Michelin's better for East Coast weather conditions. Just curious if anyone can shed any light on the differences.
#3 of 41 Re: Tires on the New ES 350 [rphwack]
by benzoservceguy
Aug 01, 2006 (11:22 pm)
Tires are usually chosen on a random basis on the day the car gets to the point in the assembly line when it needs tires.
Yesterday it was a rack of Michelin's .. today a rack of Toyo's, tomorrow a rack of Dunlops.
My 06 IS 250 I thought was gonna come with Dunlops (which I personally dislike) came with Bridgestones (not bad) probably cause it has the sports package.
Personally I like & recommend Michelin. I HATE Continential and Dunlops are so so. But that's my .02 cents and MY opinion.
have not had much (if any) experience with Toyo
#4 of 41 Re: Tires on the New ES 350 [rphwack]
by kreativ
Aug 02, 2006 (11:11 pm)
The Toyo Proxes J33 you saw on the ES350 in Las Vegas are summer tires, suitable for the climate in that area. The Michelin Energy MXV4 on your ES350 are all-season tires suitable for the climate in your area.
#5 of 41 Re: Tires on the New ES 350 [kreativ]
by psychdoc
Aug 03, 2006 (4:08 am)
Summer tires will always give you a better ride and much sharper handling as the sidewalls are significantly stiffer than their "all season" variants. Sadly, their tread life is often inferior to the all seasons' and they are almost worthless if there's any snow on the ground.
The Michelin MXV's are, at best, a compromise and even as all season's are vastly outclassed by others in the same category.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS
For instance, compare them to their less expensive, but vastly superior stablemates, the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S'.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=HPAS
And I do agree with others, this car is seriously "undertired" running only 215's. A car of this size and power should be running on at least 225's or even 235's. I think the aspect ratio of 55 off the rim is a good choice for a balence of ride comfort and handling.
Ideally, if you want the best performance from a car like this (or any car really), you should put on a good set of summer tires ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHP ) and swap them for a winter tire or an all season at the first sight of snow.
#6 of 41 Rolling resistance
by lounger
Sep 15, 2006 (7:09 am)
Everything psychdoc said is true, but he did leave something out. Part of the equation in getting such impressive EPA mileage figures for the car rests on using tires like the Michelin MXV4, which have quite low rolling resistance. Wider tires/ summer tires/ winter tires will all cause a small decrease in fuel economy.
For maximum driving performance, go with his recommendations. For maximum fuel economy, stick with your all-season Michelin MXV's. If you drive in true winter conditions, winter tires make a big difference.
#7 of 41 Air Leak
by jc0430
May 31, 2007 (10:59 am)
This isn't really along the lines of the discussion but it is relavent to the topic.
Does anyone have a problem with slow leaks in the tire(s)? I got the ES350 with Michellin Tires. The low pressure sensor came on and I filled the tire 2x before the 5k service. When I mentioned it to the service department, they couldn't find any leaks. Now, it's been almost 3 weeks since the service and the tire needed to be filled twice to bring it to the proper inflation. It seems like the dealer isn't able to do anything about it.
I was thinking of using one of the tire sealant products but I heard it messes up the balance. Does anyone have any suggestions? Has any one experienced the same problem? I could use the spare tire but then the sensor would still go on when the tire in the trunk loses pressure.
#8 of 41 Re: Air Leak [jc0430]
by tdoh
Jun 26, 2007 (10:04 am)
Assuming that there are no punctures of any kind in the tire, I would look into the possibility of either a rim that is not true (i.e., not perfectly round--it only needs to be a wee bit off for air to leak past), or a defective tire that may also not be perfectly round.