Last post on Oct 13, 2006 at 1:43 PM
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#15 of 42 Cargo or sleeping space
Oct 28, 2004 (11:06 pm)
I test-drove a 2005 xA and xB a couple of weeks ago. Based on the tendency of the xB to lean on curves, I eliminated it from my list. Later I learned that the rear seats can be removed. Suddenly I was interested in the car again. (After all, the xB does have automatic stability control. How this works or how effective it is, I don't know.)
I paced around the outside of an xB I later saw parked on the street and estimated that with the rear seats removed, there might be a flat, carpeted floor with a diagonal as much as 6'8" long. Could anyone tell me what the diagonal actually is when the seats are removed and the front seats are all the way forward?
I am 6'3" and want to know if I could comfortably sleep in the back of an xB with its rear seats removed.
(I canít just run over to the nearest Scion dealer to check this out, since the nearest dealer is almost 200 miles away.)
#16 of 42 test drove the xbox
Mar 30, 2005 (8:18 am)
Noiser in a rainstorm. Oh my!!!
I expected a noisey engine and usually don't mine it at all but, it's beyond noisey. The automatic I drove barely had enough pickup to get you going it's very noticable. Perhaps a little dangerous for my way of driving.
Now take into consideration both of those items are usually last on my list when I look at cars. But I feel they are so bad it takes the scion off my list.
I love the MPG, I love the interior room, I like the interior design for the most part, Very well priced. I hate that your head is so close to the front windshield. I do not like the lack of great bumpers. Specially on the doors, I can see it being a ding magnet. I don't like having a console in the middle. Your right arm will get very tired as you drive.
I think on long trips you would get exhausted driving this car, from the lack of a armrest console, the noise, and lack of good pickup. It really suprised me how bad these were.
One last thing the placement of the speedometer is very awkward. You tend not to check your speed as often.
The search goes on.
#17 of 42 Re: test drove the xbox [w2323]
Mar 31, 2005 (6:43 am)
I just bought my Xb last night and test drove them 6 times before I bought. Why would anybody buy a car that is not thoroughly researched? I traded in an 02 Focus ZX3 and the Xb has very similar pickup. I drive in the DC traffic soup daily and this car does pretty well. It is not a speed burner. If you want speed look elsewhere. But comfort is great. I'm 6'2 and 225 and I'm happy in the Xb. I know car comfort as I drive 110 miles daily to work and back. The lack of an arm rest is not an issue. If you need one then buy an aftermarket armrest. Scion just came out with one on the web site for about $80 bucks. Why complain about the armrest issue? It takes 5 minutes to install. This car is just right for hauling my 3 teenagers to and from music lessons and soccer practice. I know I'll be happy becaused I researched it before I bought it.
#18 of 42 Re: test drove the xbox [crazedcommuter]
Mar 31, 2005 (5:02 pm)
Does your long commute include highway driving (65 +)? Do you find the constantly high revving engine loud or annoying?
It seems I can get a Vibe/Matrix for 16500, with sunroof, stabilitrak, sounds pack, power everything, five speed. Has more storage room than the xb, better gas mileage and pickup, and quieter. But there's something about that xb. I'm very conflicted.
#19 of 42 Re: test drove the xbox [johnnyb11]
Apr 01, 2005 (3:18 am)
I haven't yet had the XB up to 65 mph. During break-in it is recommended not to go over 60. Break-in is 1,000 miles, and I have a whopping 168 miles on mine. High engine reving does not bother me as I drove a Focus ZX3 for 2 1/2 yrs. That engine is a high revver and the Xb seems quieter than the Focus. I have a co-worker with a new Matrix and he sat in my XB and liked the seating comfort and height better than his Matrix. When I get the XB broken in, typical traffic speeds run from 30--85 mph on the DC commute.
#20 of 42 Test Drove the xB and Matrix on 1/28/06
Jan 29, 2006 (4:31 pm)
Hi everyone! I'm new to this forum and thought I'd say hello!
When I first saw the Scion xB back in 2003, I wasn't sure what model of vehicle I was seeing, but it definitely caught my attention. (And yes, admittedly, I too thought the car was ugly as hell, but have grown to embrace this "milk carton on wheels.") I initially mistook it for a Mini Cooper. These cars have taken quite some time to pick up any sort of popularity in my area. The only person I saw driving an xB on a regular basis looked to be in his 40's, and it was impossible to miss seeing him drive his Scion because it was in that funky metallic orange color. Here we are three years later, Jan. 2006, and I'm seeing a few more xBs around town, used mostly as delivery/business vehicles. I am not seeing any Generation Y'ers driving this car, even though they were the targeted market. More often than not, the people I see driving these cars are people who are around my age (36) and the occasional elderly driver.
I'm presently driving a Honda Civic LX 2002, and I gave my 1998 Honda Civic CX hatchback to my husband after his Chevy van keeled over in 2001. While I absolutely adore my Hondas and their reliability, I'm starting to feel the need for more space, and am exploring my options and doing my homework for my next car. The Scion xB has held my interest for quite some time now, and I'm also considering a Toyota Matrix. Much as I wouldn't hesitate to go out and buy a Honda Element, I can't in good conscience do so because they're rated as only getting 20-25mpg. Any car I'm going to spend my hard-earned money on needs to get 30+mpg in order to justify the expenditure. Oh sure--if money weren't a factor I'd go out and buy the Toyota Pruis. I'd opt for the Toyota Prius rather than the Civic hybrid because, hybrid or not, who wants to spend $21K+ for a Civic?
At any rate, I went to the LeBrun Toyota dealership in Canandaigua on 1/28/06 and test drove a Scion xB. I liked the feeling of sitting up high in the car--almost as though I was in a truck. Once I had it out on the road, I found the acceleration to be a bit lacking. I'm accustomed to driving a 5 speed, and the xB I tested was an automatic; however, I found this to be a nice change from always having to shift gears. Definitely WON'T be winning any races in the xB, but after getting pulled over one too many times on Route 332 by the Staties, do I REALLY need to drive any faster than I already do? Even after the test drive, I wasn't sure what to think about the xB. Truthfully, it's a nifty little car, and I like the space it offers. I think they're ugly and cute at the same time. The one thing that stands above everything else: It's a Toyota, and you can't argue the reliability of ANY Toyota vehicle, the same way you can't argue about the quality of Hondas. (Except for the Passport, which was a big ol' POS!)
Next on the list was a baseline Matrix. Overall, I liked this vehicle much better. I drove this in both an automatic, but had to drive it in a 2003 model in order to try the 5 speed. Surprisingly, I HATED the stick shift; loved the automatic, though!
While I'm not planning on buying a new vehicle for probably two more years, I'm doing my homework NOW. It always helps to be prepared. Here's hoping that Scion/Toyota will opt to put in the 1.8L engine of the Corolla into the xB rather than the Echo's 1.5L engine. The OPTION of some extra power would be nice, and might sway my decision accordingly.
I was wondering if there's any "adult" drivers out there (the 35+ crowd who aren't spending mommy and daddy's hard-earned money to buy a car, and have mortgages of their own to pay, kids to care for, etc.) who have purchased the Scion xB and can tell me what you think of your purchase? I'm not into street racing or any other modifications to "sport up" my car--I just like to get from Point A to Point B with the least amount of hassle.
Once you've been stranded with a young kid in the car, reliability is of the utmost importance. Having said that, I will NEVER buy another VW EVER.
Looking forward to hearing from you!
#21 of 42 Re: Test Drove the xB and Matrix on 1/28/06 [hondacivic2002]
Jan 31, 2006 (6:06 am)
I am not totally clear on your questions, but I will share some reactions after a month of ownership. The reasons to buy an XB are the enormous utility and a desire not to see yourself on every corner. I agree with your comments on power--the 5 spd is fine, automatic is marginal. I personally would not buy an XB with an automatic, but you could probably get used to it.
If you like the Matrix, and like an automatic , why not buy one?
#22 of 42 Re: Test Drove the xB and Matrix on 1/28/06 [hondacivic2002]
Feb 13, 2006 (1:04 pm)
Hi Hondacivic, I am 50, we bought our Xb in Apr 2004. I say we because everyone in the family loves to drive it because of economy and practicality. Result, 28000 miles, the average has consistently been above 33 mpg and has had no visit to the dealership, (we do our own oil changes and other top ups). It is no dog either (we have a 5 speed) and I think it has adequate power. We have a Honda civic hybrid, a Honda CRX, a Pontiac Vibe and an Infiniti G356MT.Needless to say, the Xb and the Vibe are driven more then even the Hybrid. Happy motoring
#23 of 42 XB Test Drive - not impressed
Sep 10, 2006 (3:31 pm)
After reading all the info here and elsewhere on the net, I was really looking forward to test driving this car. It met all the specs we were wanting...most important being good MPG, utility, and price.
The drive was a big let down. We have driven 4 cyclinder cars for 10 years, but the other 4-bangers have never sounded so loud(unrefined?) and felt so sluggish. The road feel was very vague and the ride was rough. Best part of the car is the very open and spacious interior. I was really hoping this would be the replacement for our gas guzzling Tundra which is my daily driver.
#24 of 42 Re: XB Test Drive - not impressed [pepjrp]
Sep 11, 2006 (10:15 am)
I have driven 4-cylinders for 35 years - 2 Rabbits, 2 Toyotas, 2 BMW 2002s, and 1 Mazda. I got a 2006 xB 5-speed 5,000 miles ago, and am so pleased with its quality, power, smooth clutch and shifter, fuel economy and excellent handling. But those are not what first attracted me - it was the easy entry and room for my 6'-2" height.
It is important to change the rear shocks from the oddly stiff OEM KYBs to smoother SensaTracs made by Tenneco and sold by NAPA and Monroe. The SensaTracs are only $75/pair, and the change takes less than 30 minutes in the driveway with no jacking.