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Re: I need help finding a car that my daughter can afford [tidester] by jeffyscott
Jul 13, 2009 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Jul 13, 2009 7:40 pm)

On a newish car how do you figure 30 cents per mile, on top of depreciation (which is covered by the $5000 per year)? In any case, the per mile cost of an older car would be higher, in general. The savings for an older car is in having less depreciation, which normally is enough to more than make up for the higher repair costs. The only other savings might be in insurance cost, as you may not bother with collision/comprehensive coverage on an older car.
 
On older cars, I've typically spent 8-13 cents per mile on repairs and maintenance, while when they are new (the first 40-50,000 miles or so) it is more like 2-4 cents per mile for that.
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Re: I need help finding a car that my daughter can afford [jeffyscott] by tidester HOST
Jul 13, 2009 (9:14 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 13, 2009 8:06 pm)

On a newish car how do you figure 30 cents per mile ...?
 
I don't figure it. That's from published data. Depending on the source, 30 cents per mile is on the low side. The IRS has numbers as high as 55 cents per mile and many businesses will reimburse employees at about the same rate for driving expenses related to business trips when using their private cars.
 
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Re: 1996 Olds 88 LS questions [lhy] by imidazol97
Jul 14, 2009 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: lhy (Jul 13, 2009 1:21 pm)

In my opinion the new Mixes with Any Color by Prestone is similar to DexCool. A lot of people put it in and feel better, but it has the same 4 long life chemicals as DexCool. Read the labels. Suit yourself.
 
My method to flush is take off the lower radiator hose. Drain. Refill with water completely. Run till warm and fully circulating (lower radiator hose starts to be warm). Drain. Refill and run. Drain. Refill with 6 quarts of new coolant to get a 50/50 mixture (I believe the system holds 13 quarts.
 
There also is a plastic drain plug low on the radiator that can be opened. I prefer easy access and use the lower radiator hose.
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looking for suggestions by maigre
Jul 14, 2009 (9:21 am)
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I'm looking for a car, preferably a recent model used one to avoid that early depreciation hit. I'm with a lot of people these days in that I want something that doesn't exist. So I need to make compromises. I have a family of four with two young kids, so I'd like:
 
* a least a little sportiness and style
* reasonable power and torque, at least on the level of my current '99 Passat sedan. (turbo torque with hp pushing 200)
* cargo space, doesn't have to be van or SUV levels, but not much less than what my Passat has now.
* appealing interior that doesn't feel cheap and bland
* the kind of car that can be comfortable for all day rides when traveling
* reasonable reliability. I'm willing to get something less reliable than a Lexus if I like it, but don't want something likely to be in the shop every other week.
* solid gas mileage, preferably lowish emission levels. This is where big tradeoffs occur. I'd love Prius mileage and clean emissions, but it won't do as a car. Same for gas engine cars that get great mileage because they lack power and usually comfort and style. At the same time, I don't want to get a car that gets 23/14 either. Something that gets 27+ on the freeway would be fine for now.
 
I can pay as much as 30K if it's just right, but I'd rather not. And I'd like to be able to turn it around in a couple years without losing half the value if it's at that price.
 
My bias is towards a car like an Audi A4, though it's a tad small. But I love them. I drove a two year old BMW 528i recently and was blown away, but it's probably too pricey and I fear the costs down the line if I keep it long term or the continuing depreciation if I sell it in a few years. Plus, it's probably not the ideal car for a family with young kids and a wife who tends to use the car for extraneous, disorganized storage. OTOH, a recent trip to a Nissan dealer disappointed me. Something like an Altima is too bland and boring for me. I drove a mid-90s Mitsubishi Galant for quite awhile after buying it new and liked it, but don't want to repeat that sort of experience. I want more character. The Toyota Versa is too bland for me, too, as are most Toyotas. I like the Jetta TDI as a torquey performer with VW/Audi character and great mileage. But though I've had good luck with my Passat, I fear VW quality issues and it doesn't feel like it would be comfortable for the family as a vacation car. Actually, the Passat or Passat Wagon might be ideal in a lot of ways, but I've been there and done that. The 6 cylinder RAV4 is useful, but devoid of much character. I like the Hyundai Genesis, but am hesitant to buy this early in its lifespan and my wife finds it to be a little big for her.
 
So it's all tradeoffs, as usual. I'd love to get suggestions here on cars to consider.
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Re: looking for suggestions [maigre] by sebring95
Jul 14, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: maigre (Jul 14, 2009 9:21 am)

Since you like the Jetta TDI...I assume you've considered the TDI sportwagon? Still a little cramped in the back seat area IMHO....but about the same as your current Passat. The newer Jettas are about the same size of your generation Passat. I love the new TDI...and would buy one in a heart beat if I could justify another vehicle.
 
I don't get too hung-up on quality issues. My '00 Jetta TDI had less problems over 180k miles than our Honda has in 50k....so I'll take my chances and get what I like. Like you said, there's going to be trade-offs no matter what. I know anytime I've traded Ho-hum and reliable for what I really wanted....I was disappointed. You'll constantly be thinking about what you really wanted and saying "oh well, this one is reliable" or even better it won't be as reliable as you expected and you'll really be kicking yourself. I like to set myself up to be surprised in a good way! I'd go for the 5-series BMW myself as a familiy vehicle.....get one certified and you'll be good to go for a couple years anyway.
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Re: looking for suggestions [sebring95] by maigre
Jul 14, 2009 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jul 14, 2009 10:35 am)

Thanks for the encouragement, sebring95. I WILL be disappointed if I go strictly for practicality and avoid what I want. The Jetta TDI Sportwagen is on my list and I've driven it. I like the torque, storage and mileage. I'm a little disappointed by comfort level, have some concern about how it would do as a traveling car. Though we'll eventually get another car, too, since our Passat is the only car we have now and it's got 176K miles on it. Then, the Jetta could be the city car and maybe the next one could be the road vehicle. As a nimble, good mileage daily commuter, it's way ahead of the Prius, Civic or Corolla or cars of that ilk in terms of performance and appeal.
 
The BMW was sensational. At 14 cu. ft. the trunk is a bit small, but it's almost rectangular, doesn't have the nooks and crannies and/or corners that other trunks tend to. So it's a more efficient use of the space than, for example, my bigger Passat trunk. My biggest concern there is simply the cost. I priced 2006 and 2007 models here with the mileage we'd likely have and the continuing depreciation makes me think it's just too much money, especially now in this economy. If it's going to depreciate that much, I might just as well lease a new Audi. I like the BMW more, but the A4 is terrific and at least I could walk away if it doesn't seem worth keeping at the end of the lease. And I feel like that's too much money to eat over a three year period...
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Re: 1996 Olds 88 LS questions [lhy] by corvette
Jul 14, 2009 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: lhy (Jul 13, 2009 1:21 pm)

"Are there any suggested coolants that are better than DexCool?"
 
Peak Global Lifetime Coolant. Not sure how the chemical composition compares to Dexcool, though.
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Re: looking for suggestions [maigre] by suydam
Jul 14, 2009 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: maigre (Jul 14, 2009 9:21 am)

You mentioned the Nissan Altima, but did you try the Maxima? We looked at both the Passat and the Maxima and considered them comparable. It has a nicer interior than the Altima and I don't consider it boring to drive.
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Re: looking for suggestions [suydam] by maigre
Jul 15, 2009 (9:15 pm)
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Replying to: suydam (Jul 14, 2009 4:29 pm)

I haven't driven the Maxima, yet, but I probably will. I sat in a couple, current new generation model and a never been sold 2008 from the earlier generation, but ran out of time and had to leave. Seems like a good drive and value.
 
Speaking of Nissan, I drove an Infiniti G35. Wow. Probably not a great family car and it gets terrible mileage, but it has some style and it's fun to drive.
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looking for a 6 passenger SUV.. by szymas
Jul 16, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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I am going to be trading in/selling my 1999 Chevy Silverado EXT for a SUV, I was really looking hard at the Chevy Trailblaser EXT or LS models with a third row seat, but now Chevy is discontinuing, so I am not sure if it is a safe bet.. here is what I am looking for:
 
1. Minimum 6 passenger (6 is fine.. don't need it larger.. but needs 6)
2. Would like option to AWD or 4WD, I live in Connecticut..
3. Could be a new or used model
4. Minimum of a large 6 cylinder (might tow, do so with my truck now)
5. At least 15 MPG on the back roads.
6. Some good ratings..
 
Thanks ahead of time!

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