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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] [jeffyscott] by shawbeg
Jan 23, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jan 23, 2009 12:10 pm)

Well, I use the term "wagon" quite loosely. The point is, not necessarily a sedan, not necessarily a compact hatchback. For example, the Subaru Outback is "wagonesque", but I have not idea what it gets listed as. The Matrix is listed as a wagon. The Mazda 5 as a CUV?
 
Anyway, I'm not wedded to the traditional wagon concept, just looking for spacious interior without ending up with something huge.
 
Thanks for the advice on the mileage thing. Let me make sure I understand -- since I'm getting 17mpg in the old car, which is that car's listed hwy mgp, I could expect to get the hwy mpg in any newer car I buy? Wow. Go figure.
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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] by sebring95
Jan 23, 2009 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: shawbeg (Jan 23, 2009 11:31 am)

Is diesel ruled out of your list? An '05 Jetta wagon TDI can be bought for around your price point. It's has a little less rear seat room than the Mazda 5 but IMHO neither would really be comfortable for anyone over 5'6....but I dont' know how big your kids are (or are going to be.....). Plenty of safety, good cargo capacity, great road car and can easily hit 30mpg in town....40+ on the road...50+ if you buy the manual transmission version.
 
With all that city driving though a hybrid wouldn't be bad but I don't think you can get into one with that price point.
 
Another thought is a Chevy HHR. I had one as a rental awhile back and really like it. Great room, big back seat, more like a mid-size, kind of cool really IMHO. I drove all over vegas for several days plus a trip out into the desert with some high-speed runs and averaged 28mpg. Computer was showing 34mpg out on the highway holding steady at 70mph. It's a little quirky to drive with the flat windshield but driving a Vanagon for 10+ years it sounds like you don't like the mainstream cookie-cutter vehicles anyway
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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] [jeffyscott] [shawbeg] by sebring95
Jan 23, 2009 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: shawbeg (Jan 23, 2009 12:24 pm)

Let me make sure I understand -- since I'm getting 17mpg in the old car, which is that car's listed hwy mgp, I could expect to get the hwy mpg in any newer car I buy?
 
That doesn't really work well when comparing apples to kumquats. One reason is because the difference between city and hwy mileage isn't that great on trucks/vans/etc.. For example, my truck is rated 14city/17hwy and I tend to average around 16mpg. A Vanagon is rated 15/17. So they're basically saying it doesn't matter how or where you drive, these things get terrible mpg. On other more aerodynamic vehicles (i.e. not bricks) they can get far better mpg on the highway. I would say someone comparing newer vehicles can easily expect to get a similar % of EPA mileage when going with a similar style vehicle. Around town it's very hard to get extremely good mileage. It basically comes down to how much fuel does the car burn when idling. This is where hybrids and diesels do well because they use far less fuel to begin with. The rest just comes down to engine size....smaller engines burn less fuel when idling.
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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] [sebring95] by shawbeg
Jan 23, 2009 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jan 23, 2009 12:32 pm)

Funny you should mention the Jetta TDI. That was, in fact, the first car we considered. Several factors are impacting the shift away from that choice, but the biggest is that the '05s are the newest used we can get. Since we don't trade up very often (heh), it seemed that buying something newer and with fewer miles on the odom. would be a smart way to go this time around. The other factors are the higher cost of diesel fuel and the purported "quirky" natures of the Volkswagen engines. We would know!
 
Haven't yet had either kid actually SIT in the rear seats of the 5, but you make a good point about leg room. Oldest is already 5'6 and likely still growing since she's only 14. We both have the legs of someone much taller. The bucket seats give the appearance of being roomier, but maybe not.
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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] [jeffyscott] [shawb by shawbeg
Jan 23, 2009 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jan 23, 2009 12:43 pm)

Ha! Brick. Little did you know that our "brick" is actually even brick colored!
 
On the "around town" driving, the thing is, where we live it's not like we're doing a ton of idling. We're in a rural area with long runs between towns. I'm back and forth between the town where I live and the town where all the kids' activities take place (about 20 miles r/t) at least 5 days/week. But, it's not like driving in a city where every 100 yds you're at another stop light.
 
But, generally, I know that in town mileage will be poorer than hwy, and since that comprises the bulk of my driving, I didn't want to "settle" for a car that only lists 20mpg in town. That's what turned me on to the Matrix.
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Freestyle Wagon by sandman46
Jan 23, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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Check these out...nice looking vehicle with acceptable mileage and comfortable seating with room in the rear for gear. If I were looking for a car but didn't want a minivan and needed some room, I'd go got the Freestyle myself. The HHR might be a good choice also. Very comfortable seating with good storage out back and "fun" to drive and with GM pricing...another good choice.
 
The Sandman
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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] [jeffyscott] [shawb [shawbeg] by morin2
Jan 23, 2009 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: shawbeg (Jan 23, 2009 1:14 pm)

If considering the Taurus wagon - look at the Sable version as well. I think these can be steals due to the depreciation. I like Subarus in general & have owned 3, but rear legroom can be problematic - try rear seat legroom before test drive. Remember that the Outbacks have the sweet H6 engine option - but those were 30k new, so you'd have to go back to 05/06 to get one for 15K and be willing to spring for premium fuel. What about the Volvo V70 ? I'd look for the FWD version if you don't need the AWD cross-country - sharper relative depreciation than Subaru and comfortable seats. I like them because their long flat roofs are good for carrying kayaks & canoes. If I had a Saab dealer closer than 75 miles away, I'd consider a late model used 9-5 wagon too.
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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] [jeffyscott] [shawbeg] by cccompson
Jan 23, 2009 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: shawbeg (Jan 23, 2009 12:24 pm)

"Spacious interior" and decent highway mileage requirements = minivan. Quite frankly, with two growing teens, their friends, and luggage, it's hard to see how anything else fits the bill. And you should be able to get a very nice late model Odyssey or Sienna for 15K or less.
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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] by plekto
Jan 23, 2009 (11:27 pm)
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Replying to: shawbeg (Jan 23, 2009 11:31 am)

If you don't mind (or prefer) driving manual, there is another car that might fit the bill quite nicely. A 4-5 year old Mercedes C230K sedan. This is a sedan with the 1.8L Kompressor engine. ~190HP and a reliable 30mpg on the highway. If you avoid the automatic and the nav and other high-tech idiocy, the vehicle is very reliable and good to drive. Oh, and avoid the automatic. Seriously. Mercedes and Chrysler both made rubbish (reliability) automatics before the merger and nothing changed during or after with either one.
 
And right in your price range.
 
Another good choice is a 4 cylinder Altima. Larger and consistently gets 30mpg highway.
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Re: Need help with final [family] car choice! [shawbeg] [jeffyscott] [shawb by shawbeg
Jan 24, 2009 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Jan 23, 2009 6:10 pm)

cccompson -- The Mazda 5s get slightly better gas mileage than the Odysseys or Siennas without a huge compromise on room. Any reason why you didn't "endorse" the MZ5?

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