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Re: SUV Suggestions [dtownfb] by sebring95
Dec 10, 2008 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Dec 10, 2008 7:24 am)

One of the reasons we delayed the Enclave purchase was they just aren't dealing on them. They must be selling well...I think the rebate was only $750? A little better on the '08's if there are any left, but we were wanting the '09 for the more power and cooled seats. We'll revisit sometime next year.
 
I'm not too worried about being disappointed about the gas mileage. Our Ody was rated for 17/28 and I actually fell for that. It does about 24mpg on long highway only trips and averages 18. First vehicle I've owned that didn't beat the highway EPA estimates, but basically the VCM system manipulated the EPA test back in '05. If they made an AWD Odyssey I'd be very happy.
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Re: SUV Suggestions [sebring95] by dtownfb
Dec 10, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Dec 10, 2008 8:08 am)

I think you made the right decision in waiting on the Enclave. With the current economic conditions, everyone should pause before pulling the trigger on buying a new car.
 
My Quest minivan is the same as your Odyssey. It gets 24-25 on the highway but only 14 around town which is most of my wife's driving.
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Re: New Car Ideas? [jsstull3] by qbrozen
Dec 10, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: jsstull3 (Dec 10, 2008 2:29 am)

Well, for what its worth, when it came down to a new 1-series, used 3-series, or used G, I went with the G.
 
Finally set my sites on a G35X with ~30k miles. Got it for WAY less than your target price, which was one of the big factors I picked it. I liked the 330 slightly more, but not enough to justify the extra $$. I'm very happy with my choice ... however, keep in mind that it gets poor mileage. I average 20-21 mpg. And, to your point, I find the power very impressive.
 
From your list, I would avoid the A4 and Passat due to reliability issues. And, personally, I'm not interest in FWD, so that nixes the Maxima.
 
Lemme throw another one at you, though. Check out a CPO '06+ Volvo S60R. If you think your wife's turbo is impressive, you will be absolutely blown away by the Volvo. Toss in the electronically selectable suspension settings and it makes for an amazing car to drive. This was my first choice when shopping, but again, I went with the G for money reasons.
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Re: New Car Ideas? [qbrozen] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 10, 2008 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 10, 2008 10:31 am)

If you don't need every option, you could probably get a new '08 G35 for $30K... though probably not with AWD for that price..
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Re: New Car Ideas? [jsstull3] by jchan2
Dec 10, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: jsstull3 (Dec 09, 2008 12:27 pm)

I would definitely consider an Infiniti G35 (or G37, although an outgoing 2008 G35 will be much cheaper, but with lower gas mileage)
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Re: New Car Ideas? [jchan2] by jsstull3
Dec 11, 2008 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Dec 10, 2008 7:38 pm)

Hey everyone. Thanks for all the different car ideas. I will definitely test drive many vehicles before making my selection. With the way the market is right now hopefully someone is dealing! I haven't really looked at different financing options yet but I know BMW has 0.9% for 60 months going on right now. Does anyone else have something similar to this? It's hard to beat that interest rate and the no maintence cost for 50K!
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Re: SUV Suggestions [pasuk] by joshuag
Dec 11, 2008 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: pasuk (Dec 09, 2008 8:11 am)

A few you could look at would be the Chrysler Aspen, Dodge Durango, I am sure you could get a killer deal on one of those. The GMC Yukon in my town are being listed for about 28k. You could also look at the new Kia Borrego. Google one of those. They are very nice for the money and I know you can get 4 wheel drive.
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Re: SUV Suggestions [pasuk] by plekto
Dec 11, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: pasuk (Dec 09, 2008 8:11 am)

Remember - AWD and other part-time systems are rubbish and actually nearly useless for anything other than gravel roads and getting started in light snow.
 
They transfer power too slowly to actually make a difference, take up to 1-2 seconds to actually figure out what to do when trying to get up a hill or over something, and often just completely crap out and do NOTHING at all in situations where you'd figure at least the main drive wheels would still be turning.
 
You need 4x4 if you live in an area with bad winter conditions. Not some overblown slightly raised 7 passenger minivan that's trying to look like a real SUV.
 
Note - the Subarus do have actual 4x4 on them as does the Jeep Patriot and Toyota Rav-4 since the latter two have a manual 4x4 lock/override switch that forces it to stay in 4x4 mode. Most everything else is a massive failure. Just look on YouTube for examples and gape at the simple tests that the AWD systems all fail at.(note - the Rav-4 and the Patriot also completely fail at these tests unless you manually lock the transfer case into 4x4 mode, THEN they work fine)
 
Or just get a real 4x4 like a Suburban or 4Runner. These really DO get you through the really ugly stuff as they are supposed to.
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Re: New Car Ideas? [jsstull3] by jchan2
Dec 11, 2008 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: jsstull3 (Dec 11, 2008 11:56 am)

I know Infiniti is running 0.0% APR on all outgoing 2008 models (for 36 months) to clean them out, or there's manufacturer-dealer cash if you plan on paying cash; you can get a lower net price.
 
There's also a special lease deal at $349/mo. for 39 months on 2008 G35s... So if you're into leasing, there's a deal on that.
 
On another note, I would also consider a Volkswagen CC; it won't have the premium cachet, but it might provide the driving experience you're looking for.
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Re: New Car Ideas? [jchan2] by plekto
Dec 11, 2008 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Dec 11, 2008 6:56 pm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooQRxlChvMw
Typical AWD systems
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7dVFY5CxT0&feature=related
More stuff. Yes, it's hideously Subaru Biased.
 
http://www.expeditionswest.com/equipment/reviews/patriot/index.htm
Jeep's system works, too because of the locking diff mode, which overrides the computers and transfer systems. This is slightly similar to 4x4 (not to be confused with full time AWD or "full time 4WD") In my 4Runner, There is a 4WD high and 4WD low and a warning sticker saying to only use 4WD when you're not on pavement. But work it does, and exceedingly well I must say.
 
Without locking diffs and transfer cases, or something similar, most of the fancy systems are a joke in real off-road environments or snow or even mud.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SJe9eDS4s&NR=1
Actual 4x4. It's a normal 4Runner.(only ~140HP!). Night and day difference here. If you are worried about bad weather and winter roads, there's really no substitute for true 4X4. It's also not lifted and has IFS. Pretty much stock other than a locking rear diff being added. It struggles but gets up the hill.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xo8WeWzZD8&feature=related
4X4 vs SUV yuppie toy.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI4HiiSL5aE
Got Snow? Heh.

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