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Re: Something Old-School? [plekto] by qbrozen
Jul 27, 2009 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 26, 2009 10:51 pm)

I'm on board with BR. A 3-series wagon is exactly what you are looking for.
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Re: Something Old-School? [qbrozen] by plekto
Jul 27, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 27, 2009 10:10 am)

I did say no 3 series. I've driven the new ones and they are horrendously heavy and ugly. Yes, they drive very nicely, but they are awful in city traffic. The new CTS is the same as well - it does what it does by engineering and massive components rather than being light and agile. I mentioned that I wouldn't consider a 3 series already.
 
What I'm looking for are other choices that I might have overlooked, like maybe something from Infiniti or Mitsubishi or Volvo(if they made the 940 turbo still, it would be a done deal) or another smaller maker that is RWD and can be had with a manual.
 
I love hatchbacks/fastbacks. Perfect solution to the problem. But I don't see any new or used...(except for FWD ones that is...)
 
So far the list is
Trucks.
Toyota Tacoma 4cyl, manual, 4x4.
Rav4(previous gen) 4cyl, manual, 4x4.
 
Cars:
Pontiac GTO with LS1 engine
Lexus IS300
Lexus GS300
BMW 530i
Mercedes C230K (undecided on coupe vs sedan) Too bad they don't import manual E class taxis from Europe... Yes, I'd consider a manual gray market E class, but so far I see about one a year for sale in California.
 
???
 
All of the above choices other than the IS300 are honestly already almost pushing the "too big and heavy" button, but I just don't see any smaller choices with RWD other than a few convertibles and roadsters. Yes, I'd go out and buy a S2000 in a heartbeat, but it's worthless for daily life with a kid. It's got to be able to do things like take his bike to the shop or get his stuff around or move some boxes from storage or whatever.
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Re: Something Old-School? [plekto] by sebring95
Jul 28, 2009 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 27, 2009 9:43 pm)

I did say no 3 series. I've driven the new ones and they are horrendously heavy and ugly. Yes, they drive very nicely, but they are awful in city traffic. The new CTS is the same as well - it does what it does by engineering and massive components rather than being light and agile..........
 
So far the list is
Trucks.
Toyota Tacoma 4cyl, manual, 4x4.
Rav4(previous gen) 4cyl, manual, 4x4.

 
Well at least I had a great laugh at breakfast. News flash....BMW topped by ancient Tacoma in agility test.
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Re: Something Old-School? [plekto] by jeffyscott
Jul 28, 2009 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 27, 2009 9:43 pm)

I thought that was pretty funny, you say no 3 series and just about every reply suggests a 3 series
 
Have you tried going to the new cars section of edmunds? You can, for example, click on "sedans", then "all sedans", then you can check off RWD on the left side.
 
What about full time AWD such as in Subarus, would that work for you? Excuse the question, if you have already addressed that, I did not go back and reread all your comments.
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Re: Something Old-School? [plekto] by colin_l
Jul 28, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 27, 2009 9:43 pm)

I'll be more polite and simply say that this is an interesting list. When you have such a wide variety of proposed vehicles, I think you need to spend a little more time and figure out what you really value. I can't imagine how any truck could fulfill the same needs/wants as a C230K, for example.
 
BTW, the IS300 has always been heavier than a 3 series when comparing similar trim levels. Just FYI.
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Re: Something Old-School? [plekto] by british_rover
Jul 28, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 27, 2009 9:43 pm)

I am not talking about a new 3 series I am talking about the good ones from around 2002. Those are fun relatively light cars.
 
First of all you will never find a IS300 with a manual. I have seen two in my entire life. They made almost none of them and the few they did make have been bought up by kids and modded to hell and back.
 
A 325i weighs 40 lbs less then a IS300 with a manual
 
The 325 also gets significantly better mileage then the IS300.
 
The 530i weighs 250 lbs more then a 325i. So tell me again how a 3 series drives heavier.
 
325i vs 330i vs IS300 manual vs 530i
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press request by kirstie_h HOST
Jul 28, 2009 (7:22 am)
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A national newspaper is looking to speak to consumers who are avoiding Chryslers because of the way the dealership closures were handled and/or concerns about the product liability that could happen because of the bankruptcy process. Please send your daytime phone number and the vehicle you own to ctalatiedmunds.com by Wednesday, July 29, 2009.
 
Thanks,
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Re: Something Old-School? [plekto] by qbrozen
Jul 28, 2009 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 27, 2009 9:43 pm)

I did say no 3 series.
 
Yeah, I know you did. I read it. But what some of us are saying is that everything you are describing - all your wants and needs - still points to one. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck ...
 
And I never said a new one. That wouldn't fit your budget constraints by a long shot.
 
So what I'm not clear on is why, since it fits your bill perfectly, you refuse to accept it as a consideration.
 
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Re: press request [kirstie_h] by plekto
Jul 28, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Jul 28, 2009 7:22 am)

It's not because of the dealerships closures. It's because the cars were rubbish and had the worst drive-train reliability in the entire industry other than Land Rover. Nobody buys a brand again with the transmission eating itself every 40K miles.
 
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Oh - about the car, the E36 was the last one I'd consider. But I'd have to get a 1999 model and ten years old is too old. Ten year+ old BMWs are a lot like ten year+ old Porsches. Expensive to maintain and a total roll of the dice.
 
I just don't like the more current generation BMWs at all. Just like I don't like the Mustang or the current generation Mercedes(look like melted jellybeans)
 
As for the responses, this site is well known to be overrun with BMW and Hyundai fanboys. Such is life here. As for the trucks/suvs, those are the only two I'd even consider since I'm not entirely sure whether I want a truck or a car. Those are the only two I could even stomach driving... I'm generally not a fan of SUVs...
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Re: press request [plekto] by qbrozen
Jul 28, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 28, 2009 8:25 am)

this site is well known to be overrun with BMW and Hyundai fanboys
 
Really? Interesting. Seems to be a lot of honda chatter, too, though. I wonder why that is. Oh yeah, cause they're popular and reliable. ;b
 
Seriously, though, my first response was going to be G35, but someone beat me to it and you shot it down. You should be able to get a RWD 6-speed sedan in your range. Finding one is a different story, though.
 
I do happen to own a G35, 325i, and XC90, so of course those makes will be my suggestions. It only stands to reason. No RWD volvo, though, so yer SOL there. If you'd accept AWD, on the other hand ...

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