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#2490 of 2816 Re: 2005 Xterra Off Road [iconoclast]
Mar 18, 2005 (8:59 am)
The dealer in Boulder just got in a Night Armor Off Road 6-speed. I test drove it yesterday, and it is awesome. Despite what Nissan has said, after driving a 6-speed S and a 6-speed Off Road, it is clear that the Off Road has lower gearing.
The only option on the one they have is the Rockford Fosgate stereo. Boy, does that thing kick.
I would have bought it on the spot, but I want Granite and side airbags. Also, anyone buying an OR 6-speed right now will not be getting the VDC. As far as I'm concerned, you will have an orphan that will haunt you unless the VDC can be flashed in later. It is just software, so maybe that can be done, but I'm not taking that chance.
#2491 of 2816 Re: newly purchased 2004 Xterra... [lazza]
Mar 18, 2005 (10:19 am)
Its only a week old so need to break it in. But i get on the hwy an avg of 20 MPG
city it varies 15 to 18. I expect it to get better with proper break in after 7000 miles.
#2492 of 2816 6-Speed vs Automatic
Mar 18, 2005 (9:05 pm)
Can some of you more serious off-roaders chime in and give me some of your opinions/experience in reguard to the advantages/disadvantages, specifically referring to off road ability of a manual transmission vs automatic. I currently own a 97 Tacoma Extra Cab V6 with a 5-speed manual and am leaning towards staying with a manual trans for the Xterra. I am not a hard-core off roader by any means but several times a year I like to venture off with the family and explore. I've read the biggest advantages of the automatic are ease of brake and throttle control and perhaps (please correct me here) significant Torque Multiplication offered by an automatic transmission at low speeds. Thanks for your help on this.
#2493 of 2816 Re: 6-Speed vs Automatic [reed4]
Mar 19, 2005 (8:41 pm)
If your not a hard core off roader then you might love the automatic since you don't have to shift. If you need lower gears, simply shift into low range. The 6 speed will provide lower gear ratios in 1st and 2nd and allow the engine to "hold you back" with compression on steep declines. But you can do the same with auto and low range. Unless you need the low gears for serious off roading, I would use the automatic. I have used them for years even in serious off roading. Hell's Revenge in Utah go with the stick; most other off road adventures like you describe go with the automatic. The President of the CO Springs off road club uses an automatic in her Rubicon...so go for the convenience.
#2494 of 2816 Re: 6-Speed vs Automatic [reed4]
Mar 20, 2005 (8:25 am)
This has and will be argued on every off road forum forever. It comes down to personal preference.
A 6-speed will give you more engine braking coming down a seriously steep descent. But the auto in the Xterra has hill descent control, which uses the braking system automatically to control your downhill speed. But if the brakes heat up on a really long descent, then what?
The auto in the Xterra also has the hill start assist, which holds the brake for a second or so on a steep uphill so you don't roll back when you move your foot from the brake to the gas.
The six-speed Xterra has the clutch interlock defeat, which allows you to start the Xterra in gear when you are in 1/Low. This is a cool feature if you happen to kill it on a steep, rocky uphill.
Really extreme rock crawlers are almost always automatics.
I've been driving sticks for 28 years, and I'd much rather have a stick in any situation other than a couple of pretty extreme off road situations I got myself into that I shouldn't have been in anyway. And the ability to start in gear would have gotten me out of those, so I'm going with the stick.
One other consideration if you are looking at buying immediately is that the 6-speeds are not currently available with the Vehicle Dynamic Control feature (stability control). It is supposed to be available beginning in May on the 6-speeds. This feature is standard on the Off Road package, but 6-speed Off Roads on the dealer's lots right now do not have it.
BTW, the current issue of Consumer Reports has a good overview of stability control and why you might want it. I'm not a big fan of CR, but their explanation of this feature is excellent.
#2495 of 2816 Re: 6-Speed vs Automatic [reed4]
Mar 20, 2005 (10:38 am)
I agree with Scott in his reply. But in reading your words, your not into hard core off roading and you venture out to explore with the family several times a year. Unless you like to shift, the automatic is going to do all you need. I don't see you putting yourself and your family in serious situations. As I mentioned before, I have driven automatics in Grand Cherokees, small and large pickups, Suburbans and Tahoes...and I have gone all over the Rocky Mountains in CO and very rough trails in Utah with no problems. I've met lifted Jeeps with huge tires that asked me how and why I got there in a $40,000 vehicle stock? It's knowing how to drive that's important. I've used them in ranch work and pulled horse trailers. I've been stuck with automatics and sticks and gotten out with both. Use the low range with the automatic and you will be fine. It really is a preferance...like to shift then it's the manual; like the conveniences of the automatic then don't shift. We tend to buy vehicles for the 5% of driving we want to do instead of the 95% driving we actually do. You will be fine with either choice.
#2496 of 2816 Is an Xterra comparable in size
Mar 20, 2005 (5:19 pm)
to a Jeep Liberty or Ford Escape, smaller or larger???...I eventually want to own a 4WD vehicle for those times when I need 4WD, spending 95% of its time in 2WD...all the new Grand Cherokees apparently have the equivalent of AWD, except the V6 which is the only model that allows the driver to choose the driving mode, and a V6 in a JGC just isn't enough to move it, so JGC is no longer a choice for me...how does the X compare to the Liberty and Escape in size, as it seems to have much more guts under the hood, and you can choose whn you want 2 or 4WD...
#2497 of 2816 Re: Is an Xterra comparable in size [marsha7]
Mar 20, 2005 (5:46 pm)
Simply my opinion, but the Xterra beats both of them in all categories and you have so much more vehicle plus the power. It is bigger, better, faster, and more reliable with more standard amenities than either of the others. Good luck...
#2498 of 2816 Xterra HDC horrible noise....
Mar 20, 2005 (5:51 pm)
Has anyone else put the Xterra in HDC mode and heard the horrendous noise it makes? It might be effective, but using it makes you think your tranny is about to fall out. Since it uses the brakes, wonder how long before they over-heat and cause a serious situation. At this point, I think I'd rather do my own HDCing! Comments from actual users???
#2499 of 2816 Re: front head room [4rider]
Mar 23, 2005 (1:18 am)
Hey 4rider, the lack of headroom surprised me as well. I've been extrememly comfortable driving my 2002 Super Charged for the last three years, and couldn't figure out why I banged my head getting into the 2005 on the test ride... so I put them side by side and got in and out of both a few times.
They raised the seat level!! Yupper... no idea why, but that's where the lack of entry room came from.