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#1387 of 2816 Xterra vs Liberty vs Escape
Jul 12, 2001 (6:39 pm)
I owned a 2000 Nissan Xterra SE 4x4, and put 40K miles on it. The xterra was a good dependable vehicle. To me the ride was harsh, the moon roof useless, rear door entry was difficult for an adult, and could not stand having to lift the entire tailgate to get anything out even a pencil, lol. The xterra does have good reliability which is very important. I sold my X due to poor gas mileage and the harsh ride as I drive at least 36k a year for work. Gas is not that big of an issue but the ride quality is a must.
My father purchased a Liberty 2 weeks back so ive been able to drive it around town. The fit and finish seem better than xterra, the ride more comfortable than the xterra, the dash layout is better and the radio is more suitable to me, the exterior of the Lib is superior to xterra. The reliability issue is still unclear for the liberty but will find out in near future.
I must say i own a loaded ford escape and it has more pep and better gas mileage but the interior is not as nice as liberty and is better than xterra. The radio is much better than xterra and equal to liberty. Interior room is a negative compared to liberty or xterra. The ride of escape is by far better than xterra or liberty, liberty being a close 2nd and xterra well its way down the list to ride comfort. If true offroading is what you wanna do the xterra or liberty will do fine and if around town and gravel and dirt roads is all then to me the escape wins for price, gas mileage, reliablity on later models. Of course this is all in my humble opinion, but is based on having owned the xterra for over a year and the escape for 5 months and driven the liberty as much as i can get the keys away from pop's. Good Luck in your choice.
#1388 of 2816 X, Liberty, and Escrap
Jul 13, 2001 (6:29 am)
First off, the Escape rides better due to the fact that it's full independent suspension. The X and the Liberty have solid rear axles with IFS. You can't take the Escape off road for anything so I'm not sure what purpose this vehicle serves at all other than to be a soccer mom vehicle. It's a higer riding station wagon, that's all. Same suspension components as a car. Plus it's been plagued with 5 major recalls so far. Not sure the Escape even deserves comaprison to the X or the Liberty since it is not capable of leaving the pavement.
To me, the X rides like a dream. Yes, it's a truck and it's not going to ride like a car at all. Most people don't realize this when they make the transition from a car to a truck/SUV. I've owned lots of 4x4 pickups in my lifetime and the X (and the Frontier) are without a doubt the smoothest riding I have ever driven (compared to Ford Ranger, Chevy Tahoe, Jeep Cherokee). In my opionion the Xterra is the absolute perfect combination of a a daily highway commuter vehicle and a decent off-roader. It does both very well.
I have punished my X on some harsh trails and I'mm amazed at how well it does on hill climbs, stream crossings, etc.
I test drove a Liberty for the heck of it. Not a bad vehicle, but I wouldn't trade My X for it. Fit and finish seemed a bit plasticy and cheesy. Jeep reliability is pretty questionable too. I'm sure it'll be a good seller though.
Jul 13, 2001 (8:18 am)
Couldn't agree more!
ANYONE who wants a true durable off-road vehicle and expects a Lincoln-cushy ride should have 2 vehicles.
It will be continually discussed here, but the Car-Frame SUVs (Escape) really shouldn't be compared with "True" Suvs (The X and Jeeps). Escapes/Tributes are stationwagons- and that is a fantastic choice for a lot of people- People that complain about the X's ride are those that STAY on pavement and generally and should look elsewhere for a vehicle designed for on-road only. If you can't enjoy the off-road benifits of the X- it probably is not the best choice. It is not a "wanna-be" truck- it is the real deal- and you get a truck frame- and some of the stiffness that comes with it.
I just came off a 400 mile road trip in my new X. I enjoyed the highway ride more than in my Grand Cherokee even though it is stiffer- I ride higher and the bumps are quieter although I do feel them. I feel more connected to a vehicle that doesn't "float". And the 5speed is the way to go in my opinion- it makes for better passing power.
I'm sure we'll go on comparing the true off-road vehicle's ride to the car-based frames- but it will continue to be a tiresome topic.
#1390 of 2816 bandana and survival guide
Jul 14, 2001 (6:34 pm)
I just received in the mail today a bandana with Xterra in big letters and a survival guide from Nissan headquarters. Anyone else get these yet. Gotta love free stuff.
Jul 14, 2001 (7:08 pm)
Canada is sooo lame when it comes to free stuff, I'm still waiting for the first aid kit for test driving a 01... since the X comes with one... oh nevermind..
Jul 14, 2001 (9:31 pm)
hehe I got 2 motorola microtalk radios for test driving mine. Could of had that or a hydration backpack. It was sweet
#1393 of 2816 lib, x, trib/esc and sub.
Jul 15, 2001 (6:24 am)
The task of buying a car this year is certainly more difficult than any other year I have been in the market. After a month and some heavy reading of all the fantastic info in Town Hall I have learned more about cars and trucks than I really need to know.
My wife and I really love the lib, however, like most people we would never go off roading to justify the poor milage and the heavy duty truck. It is by far IMHO the best looking suv out there and drives nice too. The X isn't quite as nice except they are dealling on those to incent your purchase more than jeep is. so money almost took us to nissan over jeep.
We also went in to ford for the escape. It is much faster and quicker than the previous two and much MUCH better on the milage. That is for good reason. It is a Car !!!!!!! You can't be serious about the purchase of a suv and make the choice between the escape and the lib. they are not in the same league by any stretch. In fact IMHO if you are buying or thinking of the later you are only buying for the four wheel drive.
That is what we realized we were doing. Then we started looking at the subaru. It has better bang for the buck, I think. AWD and much cheaper than the escape. For the money...if you aren't looking for an off road vehicle and need the AWD of one you are probably not in need of a lib or a X for that matter.
Much like we realized when we crossed the lib off our list and eventually reserved an 02 forrester... we still want a liberty, but, like someone else already said, Why put up with the suv if you don't need to. I will get car insurance not suv and 22+ gpm. not to mention almost the same cargo space and the same 150# roof rack.
In closing the town hall and its participants with debates and info have been the best thing to car buying ever.
TO EACH THEIR OWN
#1394 of 2816 Leather for MSISENG
Jul 15, 2001 (6:56 am)
Someone asked for specifics on leather for the X...
There is a leather option, follow that link.
I love my leather- I got SOLID black- no strip of gray- looks feels great.
Not quite as nice as a factory job, but VERY nice.
Didn't want the embroidery/exterior nameplate either- looks good and classy- but still keeps the Xterra attitude.
Have fun- let me know what you think...
#1395 of 2816 Have had X over a month, got off-road questions
Jul 15, 2001 (4:15 pm)
Hello all! I'm enjoying my X a lot and have found it to be especially useful in the Wash. DC area when navigating the legendary potholes (haven't fallen in one yet!) and the constant pavement tear-ups in the metro area. I like to call it involuntary off-roading This area has really crappy snow removal on the roads so I may also get a chance for some on-road offroading, too! Anyway, I'm looking to go camping/canoeing later this summer and am anxious to use my 4wd in the woods there. Having never used this feature before, I've read the instructions on my sunvisor but want to know the answers to a couple of silly questions.
1) Is there anything I should look out for while in 4wd...noises, problems, etc.?
2) How will I know for certain that the hubs have unlocked after backing up the required distance?
I'm not going to go ballistic with it anyplace and run down Bambi, but I would like to be able to handle the 4wd and not get stuck. Nothing more embarrassing than a 4wd having to get pulled out by another 4wd!! My friends also love my X because it's turning out to be a nice travel vehicle: not too big but with enough comfy space to handle long drives.
Jul 16, 2001 (4:24 am)
If you are a leather-lover like me and are considering the '02 (like I was)- try to work Leather into a deal on an '01. I got mine for an extra $400.
With the black leather, the black/gray dash looks great. It is very comfortable.
See if you can get them about $100-200 below invoice, then talk leather for another $4-500 to close the deal. You'll end up with below Edmunds True Market Value and have the leather too! Not to mention 3.9% financing.