Last post on Nov 12, 2006 at 2:07 PM
You are in the Cadillac DTS
What is this discussion about?
Cadillac DTS, Sedan
Sep 10, 2006 (6:28 pm)
What are the contemplated models for the GM-Ford tranny?
I'm not familiar with the Aura.
Are you sure about the 6 speed tranny being in the Vette and STS?
I agree with you the DTS will continue to be land cruiser that it has always been. Nice ride overall, but has its limits once you need to run fast and nimble.
#56 of 64 Re: Tranny [supercool]
Sep 11, 2006 (9:29 am)
GM plans to use the FWD six speed on nearly everything I think, but will phase them in over the next few years.
The Saturn Aura is an all new car for 2007.
The only difference in the XLR/Covette six speed automatic is that is is mounted in front of the rear axle rather than behind the engine.
While Cadillac may keep the DTS's interstate cruiser qualities, the newer DTS/deVille's are much better handling cars than they were in the more distant past. The real question here is what platform they will use. The platform will determine the price range. The price range will determine sales.....
Sep 13, 2006 (7:06 pm)
Knowning Cadillac they'll keep the price moderate, so that their bread and butter base will be content, thus keeping sales in healthy place.
I'm in the Denver metro area and it seems like Lincoln has beat Cadillac as the premier fleet vehicle. Its to the point that the lincolns are being used as taxi cab now.
#58 of 64 Re: Sales [supercool]
Sep 16, 2006 (8:28 am)
There is a website GM Inside News, which is not a good predictor of GM's future products, but claims to have some information from time to time. They are not making any prediction on the DTS's future at this time. However, they do say that Cadillac is planning an ultra luxury sedan, probably to be built on the sigma platform at some point. This would be an expensive model, not a DTS replacement. They also think that there may be a small SUV, like the Equinox. Other sources have talked about an ultra luxury sedan too, so I think Cadillac is thinking about an upscale luxury sedan. What is not clear is whether this would be comparable to the S-class Mercedes, or if it would be more like the Rolls Royce class of sedans.
Ford is now planning to drop the Lincoln RWD models and replacing them with FWD Ford 500 platform models. I would expect them to drop the other RWD sedans too.
#59 of 64 Cadillac Ultra sedan
Sep 21, 2006 (8:31 pm)
I've heard rumors about a V-12 and V-16 for that particular
I'm not particulary concerned about such models. It would probably go the way of the Allante.
The 500 Platform has AWD capability. Interesting to see if it actually goes that way.
#60 of 64 Re: Cadillac Ultra sedan [supercool]
Sep 22, 2006 (7:21 am)
Ford has reversed their decision regarding the Town Car and will move the tooling to a different factory and keep it for a while longer. However, there are some FWD Lincolns planned.
The Ultra Cadillac sedan would probably be something like the Cadillac Sixteen concept car, but probably without the V16 engine. The Allante was a production showcar for Cadillac, and was more successful than the Eldorado Brougham sedan of the late 50's. Cadillac can't displace Rolls Royce in the super luxury class, but they could compete with Maybach.
Sep 23, 2006 (9:16 pm)
I agree on the Rolls Royce.
They've got a lot on the branding for "Luxury."
I got a look at Car and Driver's latest edition (I think it was October").
It stating that the DTS, CTS and are unchanged for the 2007 model year.
I suppose I shouldn't await around for a DTS-V and get use to the fit of an STS-V.
#62 of 64 Re: Rolls [supercool]
Sep 24, 2006 (9:27 am)
As I have said before, the current FWD DTS was new in 2006, so it will probably remain in production for a few more years - I would guess through 2009. A FWD DTS_V is not planned as far as I know. I can't see much point in putting a Corvette engine in the FWD DTS.
GM needs to put some serious money into new products for both Buick and Pontiac in the next couple of years if they want to keep them from going out of business like Oldsmobile.
#63 of 64 Re: Delayed [supercool]
Nov 11, 2006 (7:04 pm)
I agree with your analysis on the night vision as I have it in my 03 DTS. It works well in rural un-illuminated areas.
I also concur that Cadillac needs to stay in the race to compete and a technologically advanced RWD DTS-V would be a competitor. I prefer the spaciousness of the Deville/DTS platform although I don't like FWD. Unlike the more compact STS platform, I like the ability to throw 4 golf bags in the trunk and haul 4 full sized passengers comfortably (as in the commercial).
Most of the new sedans such as the Lexus LS460 have reduced their trunk room.
Nov 12, 2006 (2:07 pm)
Interesting to hear a response from the owner of a DTS.
From my discussion with "sls002" and further reseach on the V-series, I'm somewhat resigned to the fit of an STS. I haven't heard any rumors of ramping it up for the DTS.
However I saw a blurb recently where the "16 concept car" was going to be contemplated in a scaled down version to compete at the Rolls Royce and Maybauch level.
Even if I had the money, I wouldn't really get the car, because at that level the cars are really chauffeur vehicles and not for folks that truly like to drive and get the car onto the road for hard drives.
A DTS-V would be delightful, but the brass at Cadillac appear to sticking with the STS as the top dog.