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#353 of 404 Re: Oil consumption [sdc2] by wwest Jan 12, 2008 (5:49 pm)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jan 12, 2008 1:26 pm) Boy, sorry, you simply could not be more wrong.   I have always changed my own oil and filter since purchasing my first car, a used 1956 Ford bought at Seattle's Westside Ford in 1961. In those days a loss of one quart in 3000-5000 miles was common. By the time I purchased a new '84 T-bird my concerns of oil use between changes were gone. Today I typically drain about 1/4 to 1/3 of a quart less than what I last put into the engine. That's across a 93 Ford Ranger, a 92 LS400, a 94 Ford AWD Aerostar, an '01 AWD RX300, an '01 E50 based MH, and a '01 911/996 C4.   I suspect that these days you must have something seriously wrong in order to "burn" through a quart of oil in 3000-5000 miles.   And yes, Porsche is one of the marques that will tell you that one quart in 1000 miles is not out of line. But on the other hand my exeriences with four Porsches, a 78 Targa, and 88 Carrera, a '99 C2, and now my current '01 C4, all put the lie to that. Replies to this message: sdc2 (Jan 13, 2008 10:08 am) steve_ (Jan 13, 2008 12:45 pm)
#354 of 404 Re: Oil consumption [sdc2] by bytor42 Jan 13, 2008 (7:27 am)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jan 12, 2008 1:26 pm) I disagree totally about it being normal for cars to burn oil. I would agree that as engines get older and have a lot of miles on them, they tend to burn oil a little. But it is definitely not normal for a modern car to burn oil right from the start. My 02 Acura RSX with 115,000 still does not require any oil additions between my 5,000 oil changes. My old '96 Subaru started burning oil around 95,000 which was fine and expected. If the Toyota is burning oil then IMHO it is one of 2 things: 1. The engine is defective. Manufacturers cover their butts by saying its normal, but I'd say its definitely not the experience the vast majority of Toyota owners have and therefore is why I say it is not normal. 2. The vehicle was ran hard right off the lot and not broken in properly.   The only engine in which oil consumption is normal right off the bat is a 2-stroke. Replies to this message: verdi942 (Jan 13, 2008 7:56 am)
#355 of 404 Re: Oil consumption [sdc2] by 719b Jan 13, 2008 (7:55 am)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jan 12, 2008 3:13 pm) i don't want to sound sarcastic, but i believe you are the one that isn't in touch with reality. a manufacturer may say it's acceptable to add a quart of oil every 3000 miles, but it's not normal. the reason they say it is acceptable is because performance will be the same and the chances are the car will run fine past the 60,000 mile warranty most drive trains now have. i'm curious if this is something you just made up, or do you have documentation from a reputable source?
#356 of 404 Re: Oil consumption [bytor42] by verdi942 Jan 13, 2008 (7:56 am)
Replying to: bytor42 (Jan 13, 2008 7:27 am) Hello, bytor42. Interesting real-world info. What, in your opinion, would constitute "run hard off the lot and not broken in properly"?
#357 of 404 Re: Oil consumption [wwest] by sdc2 Jan 13, 2008 (10:08 am)
Replying to: wwest (Jan 12, 2008 5:49 pm) I'm not saying all new engines will burn oil. Most don't, but manufacturing tolerances are not going to be perfect every single time, and some do burn a little oil, for reasons I have already stated. Look around the boards for oil burning discussions, it is not as rare as you apparently think.   As far as documentation, no, I have not made a practice of storing such info, but I have read of at least a half-dozen manufacturers that say 1 quart per thousand is "acceptable". Not saying I agree with them, and there can be no doubt that there is a strong element of CYA in those statements, but the fact is an engine can function perfectly in terms of power and fuel efficiency, even while burning a little oil. So where is the defect?   If you are too lazy to check the oil once a month I have no sympathy for you. And to say the engine is "defective" if you have the crushing burden of having to add a $3 quart of oil in 5,000 miles is ridiculous. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jan 13, 2008 12:45 pm)
#358 of 404 Re: Oil consumption [sdc2] by steve_ HOST Jan 13, 2008 (12:45 pm)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jan 13, 2008 10:08 am) Around here, I see the "manufacturer says it's normal" quote usually in the Isuzu Trooper discussions. See paisan, "Isuzu Trooper" #11476, 4 Apr 2007 3:30 am   fwiw, I never have to add oil to my '99 Quest with 121,000 on it, but my '97 Outback with 65k uses a bit of oil now and then. It was a half quart low last week but I may not have topped it off when I changed the oil last (the dipstick in the Outback is difficult to make heads or tails of).   Some other oil consumption posts (found with the Advanced Search tool) involve the Audi A3, Caddy CTS, Nissan Altima and Chevy Impalas (GM's 5.3L).   Doesn't seem to be a very big issue except with Troopers though.
#359 of 404 Re: Check engine light coming on [kst1] by kst1 Jan 13, 2008 (4:09 pm)
Replying to: kst1 (Jan 11, 2008 6:29 pm) here's the update-   The service shop did not find anything to pinpoint this- just some computer glitch according to them. Cleared out the codes and said that chance of this happening again is 1 in a million. Well guess what, the check engine/VSC/skid lights have come back on. Will be taking it back to the dealer tomorrow. Anybody have ideas/experience with this??
#360 of 404 Door not working & 1 shock defective by bigdadi118 Jan 16, 2008 (5:01 pm)
The 07 AWD just had 2,500-mi 2 things already went wrong: The front Pax door cannot be unlocked by remote or by open from inside, while the other 3 doors were OK, during the coldest day in MA. Then suddenly it worked again in the 4th day after happened. My wife already made appointment w/dealer so we sent the car in for checking the suspected liquid drip mark on ground located under between 2 rear wheels. Dealer found 1 of the shock is defective. It's not in stock & has to be ordered and another appointment is scheduled for this week.
#361 of 404 Nudge Bar by jonvet Apr 21, 2008 (2:15 pm)
I see Toyota makes a very nice looking Ft bumper guard ,they call it a nudge bar. Unfortunately they only sell it in Australia and New Zealand, with shipping it's over $700. Anyone know how to get one here or a brand that would look good on a 08 Sport? Thanks, JonVet
#362 of 404 Toyota Rav4 04' vsc problem by 04rick Aug 12, 2008 (12:21 pm)
I have a toyota rav4 04' with 123,000 miles on it. The vsc and engine emission lights came on and I took it into a toyota dealer. I was advised to replace the vsc sensor after a diagonostic was run. The vsc sensor has been replaced but after 80 miles the emission and vsc lights are back on. What next? Did I get hosed by the dealer with the $500.00 dollar replacement of the vsc sensor? Replies to this message: wwest (Aug 12, 2008 5:50 pm)

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