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Re: What's This? [verdi942]
by 719b
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Nov 30, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: verdi942 (Nov 30, 2007 9:08 am)
just my thoughts and not based on any documentation.
for many years toyota and quality have been synonymous. ever since toyota has made an attempt to take over the #1 position in auto sales throughout the world, they have been neglecting quality and emphasizing quantity.
the more the output, the closer you get to the point of diminishing return... i think toyota has reached that point.
after reading the postings on this site and other automobile sites, i have never seen as many complaints about the annoying rattles, cheap paint, unknown engine noises, knocking in the steering column that toyota now has. there are many other complaints, but i think you get the point.
like i said this is just my opinion.
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Re: What's This? [719b]
by verdi942
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Nov 30, 2007 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: 719b (Nov 30, 2007 10:35 am)
I share your opinion. This is my first Toyota. I wanted a crossover vehicle of the RAV4's size; the USA competition was much more expensive. I also drive an '04 Buick, and I can tell you that GM has matched Toyota in assembly quality, zero defects and 100% reliability. When it comes to minor bits of content, such as a Driver Info Center, backup sensors, auto door locks and headlights, etc., etc., Toyota is obviously failing to go the extra mile. Add to that such issues as paint durability, space and fuel efficiency, all of which seem to have taken a back seat to keeping the MSRP at some "low" point - things that, for a few $$ would make a BIG difference to me in terms of satisfaction, well, I'm underwhelmed. Buying American looks like the future, IMO.
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Vibration issue at speeds over 50mph
by kelntomh
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Dec 05, 2007 (11:16 am)
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Hi,
I have a 2007 RAV4 4x4 base model with V6. I have noticed that when driving on smooth roads at speeds greater than 50 mph I can feel a vibration through my feet and also in the seat that seems to come and go. Sometimes I can feel it in the steering wheel as well. It is not a major vibration, but it is annoying. I had the car to the dealership twice and they just rebalanced the wheels and rotated the tires, but that did not make any difference. Does anyone else have a vibration issue when driving at faster speeds.
Thanks.
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Re: Vibration issue at speeds over 50mph [kelntomh]
by cbmorton
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Dec 05, 2007 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: kelntomh (Dec 05, 2007 11:16 am)
Yes - some V6 AWD models from MY2006 and part of 2007 have this issue. Ask your dealer about Toyota's service bulletin TC006-07. Dealers will replace the AWD ECU to cure the vibration.
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I have question about price
by getmeanewcar
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Dec 09, 2007 (10:41 am)
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The Toyota.com webpage suggests MSRP as $27000 for the RAV4/year:08/V6/2WD/3.5L/black/LIMITED/without Navi. But when I requested a quoto from Online retailers, they call for nearly $30000. Why do the local retailers call for higher price than the MSRP? And what are some effective strategy to have as much discount as possible from the local dealers? Should I get 2007 instead of 2008 for cheaper price? or Wouldn't there be big difference between 07 and 08?
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Re: I have question about price [getmeanewcar]
by karlytr
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Dec 10, 2007 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: getmeanewcar (Dec 09, 2007 10:41 am)
It seems that each dealership adds its own items to the new vehicles, in order to bump up the sticker price (which = greater profits). I just purchased a leftover 4-cyl. 2007 ltd, fully loaded (leather heated seats and all) for $25,600. I think it's possible to get better deals on the '07's, because the dealers are desperate to get rid of them. Mine has the 6-cd changer, is satellite 'ready' and has the bluetooth on the steering wheel. I'm not sure what else the '08's would have. Effective strategies would be to know that Toyota Rav4's for the '07 model year have a 2% dealer holdback, off the base MSRP. Also, know the dealer invoice price (it can be ordered online), or ask the dealer to see it. There is often lots of extra money that is paid to the dealer from the factory, after the sale of the vehicle. I got mine for about $3800 under MSRP (off of $29,467), and over a thousand under dealer invoice. However, I was unrelenting in my approach to negotiating. Oh... and NEVER EVER mention you want to trade your current vehicle (if in fact you do), until you negotiate the price on the new vehicle. If they ask you if you plan on trading, just say, "I doubt it," or "I don't know, so let's keep that out of the deal."
Good luck to you!
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Re: I have question about price [getmeanewcar]
by wwest
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Dec 11, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: getmeanewcar (Dec 09, 2007 10:41 am)
"..Why do local dealers...."
Who was it that said...
"A sucker is born every minute..."
??
The dealer does that so as to not sell to the suckers at cut-rate prices.
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Re: I have question about price [wwest]
by 719b
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Dec 11, 2007 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Dec 11, 2007 10:02 am)
Who was it that said...
"A sucker is born every minute..."
i believe you're talking about p.t.barnum
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Re: Vibration issue at speeds over 50mph [cbmorton]
by kelntomh
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Dec 13, 2007 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: cbmorton (Dec 05, 2007 11:30 am)
Thanks for the info. I am scheduling an appointment right now.
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