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Re: So many threads, so LITTLE time.... [yaris46]
by lhanson
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Aug 01, 2006 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: yaris46 (Aug 01, 2006 4:49 pm)
I give up, what does the term "Dino" mean?
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Re: So many threads, so LITTLE time.... [lhanson]
by yaris46
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Aug 01, 2006 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: lhanson (Aug 01, 2006 5:28 pm)
Dino is a term used for petroleum based oils. Synthetics now dominate the performance car markets and the term generally used for the "old technology oil" is Dino.
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Re: eh? [yaris46]
by nippononly
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Aug 01, 2006 (9:33 pm)
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Replying to: yaris46 (Aug 01, 2006 2:36 pm)
Oh dear, I see you are a true enthusiast. Well, let me rephrase: for regular folks driving their cars to and from work, gassing up with the regular unleaded and going home to park their cars in the driveway and forget them until morning, making the engine run cooler will merely cause the ECU to enrich the mixture more than it otherwise would, causing the car to waste gas.
The Yaris is already designed to run on 87 octane. Aint none lower than that available at the gas stations in my state - perhaps there is in Florida? If you have some source for 85 or 82 octane unleaded and you want to trade in a bunch of expensive chemical additives to make the engine run cooler, thereby tossing out the low-cost-maintenance advantage of this car (which would otherwise require no coolant changes for a long time), just so you can see some slight gain in performance, more power to you. Literally! 
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Re: eh? [nippononly]
by yaris46
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Aug 02, 2006 (2:15 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 01, 2006 9:33 pm)
Where do you get this information? Do you have ANY DATA documenting that the ECU will inject more fuel into a car simply because it runs 20 degrees cooler? This ain't rocket science, a cooler engine LASTS LONGER. Why do you think people spend THOUSANDS on OIL COOLERS and LARGER RADIATORS for heavy use vehicles? TO COOL THE ENGINE. As for cost effectiveness I NEVER stated that my maintenance approach is cheaper. ALL MY CARS are treated the same: Synthetic lubricants wherever they can be used. Do you use synthetic? Are you familiar with the properties of synthetic oils VS Dino? Synthetics "bind" to the cylinder walls and all engine components, allowing for LESS WEAR DURING STARTING. Synthetics also allow for people like myself who p[ut 30K-40K yearly on a car to extend oil changes. MANY SYNTHETICS can go for 25,000 miles before there is ANY DEGRADATION.
I personally WASTE MONEY and use Mobil 1 w/Mobil 1 filter every 5K. I also expect to hit over 300K on my vehicle. Since there is a TIMING CHAIN on the 1.5 my PRIMARY CONCERN is providing the best lubricants available in order to acheive over 300K on a 1.5 liter motor.
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Re: So many threads, so LITTLE time.... [yaris46]
by lucynethel
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Aug 02, 2006 (5:00 am)
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Replying to: yaris46 (Aug 01, 2006 4:49 pm)
Just trying to warn you ......if ANY failure can be assigned as "related", Heaven help you. As for Mobil 1 oil? It comes standard in a lot of cars OEM. Think you missed my point but I DO understand what YOU are trying to say as well.
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Re: eh? [yaris46]
by nippononly
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Aug 02, 2006 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: yaris46 (Aug 02, 2006 2:15 am)
Hehehe. Oil coolers and larger radiators? Sure, on 1-ton pick-ups used for towing. You do know the Yaris weighs like 2300 pounds right?
I just wanted to make sure a balanced view got onto this thread, that's all. Do all that stuff you love if you want. The Toyota 1.5 is one of the most durable engines they make - I am quite sure that with maintenance by the book, it will go 300K miles with or without the synthetics and whatnot.
It is fun to baby your car.
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Re: eh? [nippononly]
by yaris46
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Aug 02, 2006 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 02, 2006 8:24 am)
I was simply pointing out a common sense analogy towards the question of whether or not running an engine at cooler temperatures has any benefits. I mean C'MON! A third grade kid knows that HEAT degrades EVERYTHING. That includes OIL, RUBBER, ELECTRONIS, PLASTIC, and METAL. In other words all the materials under the hood of your car! Frankly I could give a Rats Behind if people go to Jiffy Lube! Where BTW YOU WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY.
I just spent an hour on the phone with Toyota tech support. I was given a case number and it simply states that the owner has informed Toyota that he is using FULL SYNTHETIC LUBRICANTS in his car. Toyota HAS NO ISSUE REGARDING WARRANTY CLAIMS, as long as you keep proper records and NOTIFY them that you are switching to SYNTHETICS.
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Re: So many threads, so LITTLE time.... [lucynethel]
by yaris46
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Aug 02, 2006 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: lucynethel (Aug 02, 2006 5:00 am)
Just a quick FYI: I contacted Toyota Customer service and informed them I was using Redline MT90 and Mobil 1 oil and filters. Toyota created a case number for me and explained that since I have contacted Toyota and its now documented that I use Synthetics and will CONTINUE to use synthetics, my warranty cannot be voided. The key is to CONTACT TOYOTA and obtain a case number documenting the transition to synthetics. You also need to keep detailed records which is nothing more than common sense.
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Re: So many threads, so LITTLE time.... [yaris46]
by waterboy5
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Aug 14, 2006 (12:37 am)
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Replying to: yaris46 (Aug 02, 2006 10:04 am)
Not to bad mouth anyone, I do my own maint on all my vehicals, and this is why, got my Yaris on the 1st of Aug 06, went 100 or so miles, checked tire pressure, 29lbs (low) checked the oil, quart and half overfull, there was no windshield washer liquid, my point is it is really hard to trust anybody to do basic maint on your vehical. Love the car though! 
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Re: So many threads, so LITTLE time.... [waterboy5]
by yaris46
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Aug 14, 2006 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: waterboy5 (Aug 14, 2006 12:37 am)
BTW: Whats the best tire pressures for this car?
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