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Re: Completely dead after 7 days [cdptrap] by nsxwes
Jan 01, 2007 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: cdptrap (Dec 30, 2006 2:40 pm)

Thanks cdtrap, I think I will drive it for a couple of weeks and see if the system re learns my driving habits that resulted in what I consider to be very good mpg (27/28). I will let you know what happens. Thanks again for everyones help with this. Wes
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Re: Completely dead after 7 days [cdptrap] by katzjamr
Jan 01, 2007 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: cdptrap (Dec 30, 2006 2:40 pm)

thanks for your comprehensive reply nsxwes, the only thing i can add is i remember reading in another forum that the lexus tech will see a reading if the iac needs to be reset and can do that at the dealership. as to is it widely known by service reps, idont think so. when my sunroof motor was replaced under warranty in the 400h i asked the rep if the battery was going to be disconnected, he said usually yes, and i asked for the iac reset in that case, no one had ever brought it up to him before.
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Re: Completely dead after 7 days [katzjamr] by hh_newbie
Jan 02, 2007 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: katzjamr (Jan 01, 2007 8:48 pm)

Sorry for piling on...but I just found your thread and the timing is uncanny.
 
We too got a HH late '05 and have been suffering with a "dead battery" problem for the past couple months (not the traction battery, but the 12V battery that starts the car).
 
We've had it in and out of the dealer throughout December and I just took it back.
 
One "interesting" comment made to me by the dealer mechanic this morning is that it's a known issue that you cannot let the car sit for more than a day without starting it. For us, if we leave it off for more than a day or two the battery typical dies.
 
The dealer is contacting Toyota and I'm hoping they replace the battery and/or upsize it.
 
Good to hear others are not have the same issue...that they can leaves theirs off for days. The whole idea seemed silly to me.
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Re: Completely dead after 7 days [hh_newbie] by nsxwes
Jan 02, 2007 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: hh_newbie (Jan 02, 2007 9:41 am)

As I understand it, it is not the 12 volt battery that actually starts the engine. The 12 volt battery sends a message to the traction battery to start the engine when appropriate. If the 12 volt battery is dead, the message cannot be sent. Realistically, the HH should be able to sit for 3 or 4 weeks minimum without the 12 volt battery going dead. Anything less than that would not seem acceptable to me. I am very hopeful that the new 12 volt battery that was installed in my HH will cure my problem. Wes
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dealer mechanic comment by katzjamr
Jan 03, 2007 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: hh_newbie (Jan 02, 2007 9:41 am)

think about what that mechanic told you, toyota has made a vehicle that must be started at least every 24hrs. Please realise people say things without any basis in fact. It is not practical for many owners who travel or dont drive daily to worry about this and its not true. Your own manual asks that the car sit not longer than two weeks, and many of us have gone a month with no problem...this comment was made by a person who obviously cannot fix your problem and invented his own answer. I WOULD make him substantiate that statement and also never let him touch my car again.
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Re: Completely dead after 7 days [hh_newbie] by cdptrap
Jan 03, 2007 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: hh_newbie (Jan 02, 2007 9:41 am)

it's a known issue that you cannot let the car sit for more than a day without starting it.
Whoever said this is not an owner and have no clue what he or she is talking about. Ask him to prove it.
 
Most of us owners will not tolerate such limitation and you can be sure the NHTSA would have received numerous complaints if this were true.
 
Our HH sat for a week while we were gone on a trip last Winter. The car was out under a tree exposed to rain, some snow and freezing temperature. I forgot to hook up the little solar trickle charger to the 12V but when we got home, it started without a problem. Are we the only special case? I think not.
 
As long as the 12V indicator shows blue, your 12V is fine. Like all cars, car batteries do die and when they do, we will get a new one and cruise on...
 
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Re: Completely dead after 7 days [nsxwes] by sam71
Jan 04, 2007 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: nsxwes (Dec 23, 2006 2:09 pm)

I had two similar problems after 10 day park with car mileage at 600 & 4000 miles. I am bringing it in tomorrow for second time and this time will go to Toyota if I get no good answer. I will ask the dealer to measure the leakage current and see if it will discharge the battery after 10 days (without a resart).
 
sam71
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MPG back to normal by nsxwes
Jan 04, 2007 (8:17 pm)
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Just a quick note that my gas mileage is back to normal now which is an average of 27 to 28 mpg. Right after the 12 volt battery was replaced it was close to 20/21, a day or two later it was up to 22/23 and now after a week is back to normal. It appears that the engine computer has relearned properly
Wes
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Re: MPG back to normal [nsxwes] by hh_newbie
Jan 04, 2007 (9:34 pm)
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Replying to: nsxwes (Jan 04, 2007 8:17 pm)

As an update - I just got the HH back today and had a long talk with the service manager. He apologized for his mechanics comments and said it was total BS.
 
Just to be sure, he ran the comment past his Toyota contact who confirmed I shouldn't be having these issues. I didn't realize that the traction batteries actually started the engine...in fact I'm still suspicious. To start the HH when it died, I just put a battery charger on the 12V battery. It takes a good 5 minutes of charging before it starts the engine and there is a load on the charger when I try to start it. Perhaps there is a solenoid it's trying to engage??
 
In any case, I did have a radar detector installed in the car. I can neither confirm or deny the charger was left on the last time the car died (wife's car) so I just took it out all together. Other than that and a DVD player installed at time of purchase...it is pretty much stock. If it continues to die after sitting for a couple days I'll have to escalate the matter w/ Toyota.
 
For now I'm going to think happy thoughts and hope the problem was just with a radar detector being left on. (Ok, no one wreck my dream...I know a radar detector has minimal draw - but this will be my "happy place" until it dies again )
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Re: MPG back to normal [hh_newbie] by stuartbonia
Jan 07, 2007 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: hh_newbie (Jan 04, 2007 9:34 pm)

Go pick up one of those 12 volt power packs that can be used to jump the car. You can usually find them for $30 or so. Charge the power pack at home and take it with you.
 
These are good to have around just in case.

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