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Re: new to this List - mileage stuff and a question [mmreid] by jdkahler
Aug 13, 2005 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: mmreid (Aug 13, 2005 5:43 am)

Have a 2WD HH base with about 700 miles (26 mpg first tank, 25 second in mixed driving in hot Philly area with too many 5 minute commutes due to the heat), have driven in mixed area including some hilly parts since we bought the vehicle. The manual says something about using premium to enhance performance but regular is fine. Forget the enhanced performance part and go with the regular. The vehicle has run just fine on it, never evidenced any problems that premium in other vehicles designed for regular might solve (knocks, pings, hesitation), especially since the electric motor kicks in if you hard accelerate - the performance is everything the salesman gushed about (he drives a Prius) but not why we bought the vehicle.
 
Aside on the fit and finish article from Detroit - I just had to look real close to see what it was talking about and see nothing but first class fit. The vehicle is amazingly quiet, as tight as the Corolla we traded in and much much quieter than either Ford van I drove previously, and on roads around here - which includes cobblestone city streets - quieter and smoother than a colleague's Acura SUV. I was out on roads that were under construction and also we drive on a farm once a week and it's absolutely solid. If the comments in the article were truly from a Toyota employee they need some reorientation from Toyota.
 
Yeah, it's expensive but even that's a relative thing. When you compare similarly equipped Highlanders or other makes - add in safety features that to me are priceless and not always available plus some of the other items you may or may not want on any package vehicle - the differential lessens. Toyota is also taking a significant gamble in investing in R&D on something that might or might not give them a return, and since we believe that we need to be developing vehicles that consider better mileage and safety features than comparables on the market, our purchase encourages that development. Like any investment, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. In this case we're really enjoying the ride! - John
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100 Mile Impressions by markrsmith83
Aug 22, 2005 (6:05 am)
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Here are my impressions after only 100 miles (essentially 6 drives of about 20 miles each).
 
1. The mileage is crawling up from 18MPG on the first few miles to 22MPG now. We're still within break-in, so I don't expect much yet. The gas gauge shows less than 1/4 tank gone.
 
2. Where did they get the database for the Nav system? My street (which has existed for 10 years) is missing.
 
3. I seem to be getting a slight surge when the ICE shuts off. It does produce slight acceleration, and the battery to front wheels arrow flash on and off on the diagram on the Nav. This is usually during coasting or braking so it's not likely to cause an accident, but it seems like a software bug.
 
4. I'm getting some non-linear power production when driving at a constant speed over a fairly level surface. It's probably break-in of the transmission.
 
5. The seats are harder than I remember from my American cars, but no less comfortable. Interesting.
 
6. VERY easy to drive. It has all of the power of my Jeep, with 2/3 to 1/2 of the fuel consumption. Aside from the "put all of the controls on a stick on the steering column" confusion, it was easy to figure out where the controls are.
 
So far, I'm happy.
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Re: 100 Mile Impressions [markrsmith83] by mdchachi
Aug 28, 2005 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: markrsmith83 (Aug 22, 2005 6:05 am)

> 2. Where did they get the database for the Nav system? My street (which has existed for 10 years) is missing.
 
Did you try searching for your street without any prefix or suffxes? I've noticed some streets are there but are wrongly marked as ST, DR or RD when they should be something else. So, for example if your street is West Somewhere Drive, try just entering "Somewhere". Also, make sure your region (Search Area) is set correctly. Go to DEST and doublecheck the search area. If your search area is set to a wrong region, it will not find streets outside that region.
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Re: 100 Mile Impressions [mdchachi] by markrsmith83
Aug 29, 2005 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: mdchachi (Aug 28, 2005 1:31 pm)

Re: missing street.
 
It's not even on the map. You can still see the stubs of the feeder streets from before the neighborhood was built. The first house closed in 1995, the last house closed in late 1996 or early 1997.
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Re: 100 Mile Impressions [markrsmith83] by gagrice
Aug 29, 2005 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: markrsmith83 (Aug 29, 2005 7:17 am)

You need to make the people that provide the NAV software aware of the additions. I found several missing streets on one of the map books for Hawaii. They were very appreciative of the update. You may even get the latest DVD for free if you help them out. It is hard to find perfect mapping software.
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Re: 100 Mile Impressions [gagrice] by zacharya
Aug 29, 2005 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 29, 2005 7:41 am)

Most of the software for mapping comes from NAVTEQ. If you report to them an error, they will correct it in their next revision. I use a little unit from Garmin called Quest. It is nicer than the units installed in most cars. Updates are cheaper and you can take the unit from vehicle to vehicle. If enough people complain, the car manufacturer may give you a free update.
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My Highlander Hybrid Results by sky_king
Aug 25, 2005 (6:54 am)
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Hi All,
 
I've had my HH Ltd. a little over 2 weeks and with 500 miles on the odometer, I averaged 26.6 MPG on the first tank full. This is in mixed city/highway driving.
Unlike some HH owners here, I'm "braking in" the engine slowly...varying my speed between 55-65 MPH on the highway until I reach 1500 miles. Always done this, always will, despite what I've been told or have read. Personally, I can't see driving a new car off the lot and accelerating to 85 MPH. It just doesn't feel right.
BTW...LOVE this vehicle !!!
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Got ours and love it by 1aardvark
Aug 26, 2005 (11:58 am)
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Got on a waiting list in April with St. Louis dealer, converted to order for AWD Limited with everything you could spend money on in May (MSRP for vehicle, less 20% on extras), picked up from dealer two weeks ago. First and second tank was 28.2, third tank is finishing-up at 30.8. Drive aprox. 80 miles round trip daily (stop & go to 70 mph on crowded highways), plus 350 mile round trip every other weekend to lake (Ozark foothills). So far does great in torrential rains and loose gravel on steep driveways. I stopped driving my 1989 Land Cruiser w/440,000 miles that has always gotten 16 mpg, when gas hit 2.00 gal. Still have it, but it doesn't get driven far.
 
I use the cruise control as much as is humanly possible. That may help with the mileage I'm getting. So far I love this SUV.
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Re: Got ours and love it [1aardvark] by stevedebi
Aug 26, 2005 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: 1aardvark (Aug 26, 2005 11:58 am)

"First and second tank was 28.2, third tank is finishing-up at 30.8. Drive aprox. 80 miles round trip daily (stop & go to 70 mph on crowded highways), plus 350 mile round trip every other weekend to lake (Ozark foothills)."
 
It sounds as if your driving cycle fits the design criteria of the HH. Congratulations on your ride!
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Re: Got ours and love it [stevedebi] by newthhowner
Aug 26, 2005 (10:03 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 26, 2005 12:14 pm)

I purchased my first hybrid last week with 265 miles on it. I filled up with regular unleaded and was disappointed with the results. The ave mileage indicator stated 25+; however the actual was 20 and some change. I am working on the P&G method and was wondering about how some of you accelerate. I have been watching the indicators and usually the mpg is like 5 during mild accelleration and rarely does the battery come on and stay for any length of time. I am about 80+ miles into the second tank and I am hoping that the mileage will go up.
I traded in a 2002 RAV4 with 32K miles and recall getting 20 mpg in the city consistently. Really hoping I didn't make a mistake here.
There is a lot to like in this feature filled limited HH, but for the money I can do without the fluf like heated seats. I live in Texas and it is HOT! : )

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