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Replying to: presrizd (May 13, 2006 7:14 pm) Listen, I don't know where you are in NJ but I went to two Pontiac dealers ... one was FANTASTIC and is where I bought my GXP and the other is horrible and should slowly sink into the depths of hell. The first dealership I went to was Jim Curley Pontiac in Lakewood, NJ on Rt. 9 ... they are horrible ... first of all the lady that I talked with was rude and snobbish and after being jerked around for about 2 weeks she offered me a stripped down bare bones version of the GXP I wanted. I took my business elsewhere! STAY AWAY!!! Then ... I went to the second dealership. Listen, if you want a nice, friendly dealership where there is no smoke and mirrors go to Freehold Pontiac on Rt. 9 & Craig Rd. in Freehold. Go there!!! That dealership and salesman was so good to me that not only did I write a letter to the dealership but also one to Pontiac HQ. Take care and GOOD LUCK ... can't go wrong with a fully loaded GXP!!! Your GXP bud, Frank 
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Replying to: gxp4me (May 14, 2006 4:59 pm) |
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Replying to: dblduce (May 15, 2006 6:00 am) I do not know how pricing is running right now on a 2006 - since I am not in the market to replace mine - today. I also bought in June of 2005, largely due to GM's "Employee Pricing" then in effect. And my deal was quite similar to yours: MSRP = $33K even & actual transaction price = $27K. Last I knew the GMID program was still in effect - if you know a GM employee. Did you check the Edmunds TMV? - Ray Happy with the deal - and the car!
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Replying to: rayainsw (May 15, 2006 6:11 am) Good luck. It's a great car, and at that it's a great price. The car is better than anything else I drove at $30,000 or under. I drove everything, too. As you know: the power is addictive. The car accelerates and brakes and corners like a good motorcycle. It really is a four-door (older) corvette. 
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Replying to: presrizd (May 13, 2006 7:14 pm) |
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Replying to: dblduce (May 15, 2006 6:00 am)  sorry forgot to mention that! The tag price of of my GXP was 32 and change ... after the employee discount I wound up paying 28 and change. Frank |
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Replying to: splatsterhound (May 15, 2006 8:31 am) Either way, best car in its class for the price. Like others everybody stares and yes the power is addictive. But even if you aren't enjoying the power, the other features are great, seats, XM, HUD and other goodies. Besides, even with the power and some fun still getting similar MPG to the other lower powered cars. It was my "mid-life" crisis car and my neighbor laughed until I took him for a ride. Makes his Infinity G35 Coupe feel under powered. Cheers, Gary |
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In a few days, I will have driven my GXP for a year – and likely just over 15,000 miles. Report: Executive summary = I do enjoy driving this car – I have fun every time I drive it. Likes: Acceleration. Marvelous. And addictive. I enjoy the big torque low down style of power delivery. A very personal preference, clearly. And I also prefer the low RPM at cruise. 2,000 rpm is over 70 mph. Just a bias - one of mine that is not entirely logical. At steady cruise, the exhaust fades into the general background noise, and is covered by the stereo even at low volume. And the smooth, strong, immediate power delivery leaves me with a feeling of effortlessness. Exhaust note on acceleration. ( See above. ) Handling. FWD very well managed. Fun! Braking. Very good. The brakes are powerful and linear in response. Confidence inspiring. Driver’s seat. Supportive and comfortable in driving 6+ hours at a time & good lateral support in cornering. Lumbar support adjustability is excellent – the ability to move the support up and down as well is appreciated. And the seat bottom front raises / rear lowers = excellent support when I want it for my thighs. And the seat heaters warm up very quickly! I like the suede inderts. Ride. Bilstein dampers work very well. Steering – Precise, poised, relaxed, stable. HUD. XM. The instruments and displays are clear and arranged logically. The controls are arranged sensibly and work well – mostly intuitive. I do not find the trim quality offensive. It is not an Audi interior (another thread) but it appears well screwed (welded, snapped, glued) together and nothing strikes me as misaligned or mis-fitted. Overall build quality is acceptable to me. I have noticed no body / chassis flex and no squeaks or rattles - so far. There is no discernable wear on any surface inside the cabin. Outward visibility is excellent. The inside and outside mirrors are placed and sized nicely to allow me to deal with Hot-Lanta area (NUTS!) traffic. Could use improvement: I did have to have my trans. replaced. At approx. 6,000 miles. And others have reported issues. MPG. Certainly not bad, considering the power available, and how often I dip into it, but . . Wish list: If I wanted to replace this 2005 GXP with a similar vehicle, I’d want these items included. ( But I am aware that none will likely find their way into the FWD GXP. ) Six speed automatic trans. ( Sad that the newly announced 6T75 will handle the [ old, FWD version of ] the 4.6 North* HP & TQ, but not the LS4’s. ) Assuming the existing four speed automatic: Downshifts would be a bit more refined if the GXP had implemented the really trick ‘rev match on downshift’ that the Infiniti M45 Sport does have. An ‘uplevel’ interior, (at least optionally, now that the Bonneville is gone) with some higher quality materials, cooled as well as heated seats, an enhanced HUD with features like the Tachometer graphic included with the Corvette version. Some of the large plastic pieces (on the doors, for example) would look and feel better if done in a high quality fabric and / or leather. A tire pressure monitor that actually displays PSI for each tire. A power tilt & TELESCOPING steering wheel. With finer gradations. Larger fuel tank. 20 gal. would work for me. A longer standard warrantee??? Another 50 HP & TQ. ( Just kidding . . ) Bottom Line. For me, at that point in time (with GMS pricing: MSRP $33K, I paid $27K) this GXP was the ideal compromise for what I need – and what I want. There is no significant flaw – for me. And the value proposition is valid. Again - for me. A better overall performance \ luxury sedan would have cost me a bunch more. And one year after purchase, I see nothing in the price class that I think would be a better deal – for me. - Ray Happy Camper . .
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jun 05, 2006 6:01 am)
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Replying to: chats1 (Jun 05, 2006 7:02 am) The GXP is ( clearly ) not, and does not pretend to be, a competitor in the $50K+ sedan class, in several aspects. Yet most $50K+ sedans, such as the AWD Audi A6 V8, the Jag S-Type (V8, but not ‘R’), Lexus GS430, BMW 530, Acura RL, MB E350, Caddy STS V8, etc. are not significantly quicker than the GXP. And I have no need or particular desire for AWD. RWD would be nice. The M45 Sport is the sole exception with respect to better acceleration, at this point. I will probably not replace my GXP with a newer Grand Prix. Come time for me to change again, in another 6 to 12 months ( more often than any sane person, I acknowledge ), I will likely look very closely at that $50K+ Sedan segment again. The BMW 5 series ** MAY ** be offered with the Twin Turbocharged 3.0L with 300 HP \ TQ by next Spring. If the interior & exterior styling is ( ahem ) toned down a bit, I might consider ED with my daughter. That would be a trip. So to speak . . I may even look at the BMW 3 series, if the Sedan received this motor as well as the Coupe. Volvo will introduce an S80, significantly updated & with a 300+ HP V8. Euro delivery again an option next Spring. The STS V8 will be available with a six speed automatic for 2007 – and the wider ratio spread in this trans. ought to allow improvements in both acceleration and real world cruise MPG. But unless the Caddy’s option group pricing is changed (by a lot) and \ or there is a $10K+ price reduction from MSRP “on the hood” when I am ready, the $60K+ price of the version I’d have to order may again eliminate that possibility. ( 1SG with K59 Adaptive Cruise & HUD and PCZ Performance Handling Pkg.) And questions like: Will an effective “rev match on downshift” be implemented with the new trans.? - will likely have to remain open until I am actually able to drive one. The A6 V8 is slated to receive more HP – and possibly more TQ for 2007. And better fuel mileage. Perhaps that will be enough to justify another test drive. It appears likely that the M45 will not offer substantial changes for MY 2007. We shall see. We truly do live in “interesting times” – automotive-ly, at least. - Ray Enjoying ** THIS ** drive, for now . . |
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