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#11 of 642 2005 dodge diesel stalling problem by mjsheek Aug 08, 2006 (6:26 pm)
Has anyone else had a problem with their 05 diesels not starting and stalling, The no start doesn't matter if it has been running all day or been sitting for a week when it chooses not to start it just does'nt want to start. The stalling is you'll shift gears in the manuals and its just like you turn the key off, It will not start back till you cycle the ignition off and back on again. If you have please email me and let me know. Its not fun when it stalls in the middle of a sharp curve. Replies to this message: thawkes (Aug 22, 2006 1:57 pm) p100 (Aug 23, 2006 5:58 am) hpleese (Feb 16, 2007 3:40 pm) and 1 more... jond09 (Dec 20, 2007 9:59 pm) rbutinski (Nov 21, 2008 6:32 pm)
#12 of 642 Fuel useage when diesel truck is coasting down hill by garysm99 Aug 22, 2006 (11:49 am)
I have a manual shifter and I was wondering with computerized fuel injection how much fuel is being used when truck is coasting down a long hill with foot off the throttle? Would less fuel be used if truck was in neutral?
#13 of 642 Re: 2005 dodge diesel stalling problem [mjsheek] by thawkes Aug 22, 2006 (1:57 pm)
Replying to: mjsheek (Aug 08, 2006 6:26 pm) I also have an 05 diesel that is hard to start at times. This has happened since the day I drove it off of the lot (brand new), and recently took it to my local dealer service dept. (different state) to find out what the problem was. They informed me that five out of the six injectors are bad (apparently due to metal from contaminated fuel). They said that Dodge had changed the injectors for the 05's, which explains why none of my previous Dodges had this problem. They also informed me that this is not covered under warranty, and it will cost me $4,500 to have it fixed. I'm not buying their statements, in large due to the fact that it was hard to start the very first time I got in it. Even if their statements are correct, wouldn't this problem be considered a manufacturer defect with consideration to the change in injectors? I'm not exactly sure how their "new and improved" parts getting clogged by the same old type of diesel fuel is the fault of the consumer.      As far as the stalling, I've experienced no problems due to the fault of the truck, only driver error! Replies to this message: p100 (Aug 23, 2006 5:58 am) hpleese (Feb 16, 2007 3:40 pm) kcram (Feb 17, 2007 8:38 pm) jond09 (Dec 20, 2007 9:59 pm)
#14 of 642 Re: 2005 dodge diesel stalling problem [thawkes] by p100 Aug 23, 2006 (5:58 am)
Replying to: thawkes (Aug 22, 2006 1:57 pm) This makes no sense. First of all, if there is powdered metal or other particulates in the fuel, aren't fuel filter(s) supposed to catch these contaminants? Have they increased the capacity/number of fuel filters, as well as filtration efficiency of these filters? If these new injectors have smaller orifices and are so sensitive to contamination, then the truck should have at lest three in line fuel filters/water separators. A lot cheaper to replace these than $ 4,500 worth of injectors. And why can't these new injectors be disassembled and cleaned for a lot less money? All traditional diesel injectors that I am familiar with (have two older diesel vehicles myself) can be rebuilt. A set of 5 rebuilt diesel injectors for my Mercedes 300SD costs about $ 300.   The more I read about issues like this, the more convinced I get that I need to stay away from new diesels. I love to have one, and prices are actually pretty good now, but I do not need this kind of a headache. You can buy a lot of gas for $ 4,500, so the same truck with a Hemi 5.7 might be a lot more economical for occassional towing. And you save $ 5,555 up front too. Replies to this message: hpleese (Feb 16, 2007 3:40 pm) kcram (Feb 17, 2007 8:38 pm)
#15 of 642 Re: 06 diesel blinking check engine light on startup [hondo_miller] by chadpengar Aug 27, 2006 (6:10 pm)
Replying to: hondo_miller (Apr 20, 2006 8:24 am) I had a new 2006 2500 MegaCab with 5.9L Cummins home from a dealership on a borrow for a day and a half a week ago and it did this. And then I went and bought one from another dealership a day or two later and it does the same thing. (Had some issues with the desk manager telling me things I knew not to be true on financing rates/payments -- I had tables calculated I had brought with me.)   You put the key in and turn it to power up the electrical system and after a few sec the orange engine icon starts blinking but it goes away when you start up the engine... 2 out of 2 brand new off the lot doing this... Replies to this message: ctb06 (May 03, 2007 6:21 pm)
#16 of 642 Bad Cummins Injectors by danny52 Aug 28, 2006 (5:32 pm)
My 04 Cummins has a slight ticking noise. The dealer listened to it and said it is a sticky injector. This is an ongoing problem according to them - and they've had to completely replace 6 motors after the sticking became so bad it jammed open and melted a hole in the piston. They are going to fix it under warranty (truck has 16K on it), but my question is this: Does this affect the long term longevity of my motor? If the injector is leaking more fuel into the cylinder than needed it would seem like there could be a number of serious problems. The dealer says one way to diagnose the problem is that fuel ends up in the crankcase - which has not happened yet in this case. Any experience out there with this type of situation? Replies to this message: chris65w (Sep 01, 2006 8:38 am)
#17 of 642 Re: 1994 dodge ram 2500 diesel hard to start when its cold or sits for a few da [dodgeram94] by tractorhome Aug 31, 2006 (4:20 pm)
Replying to: dodgeram94 (Jul 14, 2006 4:21 am) Check the Amps that your batteries are putting out, That could couse the heating blower not to heat the engine.
#18 of 642 Re: Bad Cummins Injectors [danny52] by chris65w Sep 01, 2006 (8:38 am)
Replying to: danny52 (Aug 28, 2006 5:32 pm) I am having more extreme problems, twice in 8 months I have had a complete injector failure. The only immediate symptom is a howling noise followed by a flood of oil coming out the breather and compltely covering my trailer. After the last tow and 11 days in the shop the dealer still has no definate answer for me. A buddy is telling me that this has happened to him 7 times on his truck of the same year (04).
#19 of 642 Bad Injectors post #2 by danny52 Sep 01, 2006 (12:47 pm)
Thanks chris65w, I appreciate the info. Sorry to hear of your problems. It cant be any fun. The ironic part of all this is that my Dodge replaces my 2000 Ford PS. I was going to get another Ford (with the 6.0 diesel). My buddy at the local Ford parts department told me not to because of chronic injector failure. Who makes injectors anyway? Is it 3rd party? It would seem like a no brainer to get them right since failure is so expensive. I'm told a new Cummins is $15K installed. I wish you luck. I should get my truck back today. I'll post the results.
#20 of 642 All is well regarding suspected injector problem by danny52 Sep 02, 2006 (4:59 am)
I got my truck back from the shop today. After doing flow tests and other diagnostics, the dealer came to the conclusion that all I needed was a valve adjustment. So that was done (under warranty), and I'm on my way. The injectors were not bad - as was originally thought. I'm a happy camper.

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