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New 2009 SF Limited-Big Torque Steer to Left by curiousal
Oct 07, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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Can this be fixed or do I have a lemon?
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2009 Santa Fe Limited with Pioneer x710bt by eebrom
Oct 18, 2009 (10:03 pm)
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Hi:
 
Hope this might be the right place to post my question.
 
So far, very happy with our new car -- seems to have all the bells and whistles, but...
 
The available car didn't have an OEM navigation/audio system installed so we took the dealer's offer of a Pioneer x710bt with bk/up camera, Sirius radio, iPod, usb,etc.
 
Does the car come with its own (10, I think) speakers and amplifier installed? I think so, because they seem to be there. But the lowest audio system sounds demonstrate the sub-woofer is not operating separately either through the Pioneer amplifier or the OEM amplifier. Installer person sort of gave imprecise answers when questioned about the lack of separate sub-woofer control from the head unit. He talked about difficulty of getting proper connectors, etc, but that everything should work fine.
 
Question: Does anyone know if the Pioneer x710bt can actually operate an installed oem sub-woofer independently? The Installation manual would suggest it can. So I wonder why they wouldn't have made the proper connections.
 
Any help appreciated before I go to ask more questions. Anybody used to hearing the full sound-spectrum knows when a separate sub-woofer isn't operating independently from the others.
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Re: 2009 Santa Fe Limited with Pioneer x710bt [eebrom] by denvertrakker
Oct 19, 2009 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: eebrom (Oct 18, 2009 10:03 pm)

AFAIK, there is no subwoofer in a Santa Fe. There are four two-ways (one in each door) and two tweeters on the front door pillars. The Pioneer head unit has pre-outs to connect a subwoofer, but you'll have to add a sub w/box and an amplifier. Hope this helps.
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Re: 2009 Santa Fe Limited with Pioneer x710bt [denvertrakker] by eebrom
Oct 19, 2009 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: denvertrakker (Oct 19, 2009 6:53 am)

Hi denvertrakker:
 
My sales blurb says...
 
"Radio: Infinity Logic 7 AM/FM/6CD/MP3 Audio System
Includes surround sound, (10) premium Infinity speakers: (2) 25mm front door-mounted tweeters, (2) 16cm front door-mounted woofers, (2) 16cm rear door-mounted coaxial speakers, (2) 10cm tailgate-mounted midrange speakers, (1) 20cm rear quarter-panel-mounted subwoofer and (1) 10cm dash-mounted center midrange speaker. 55W x 11 channel (605W Max.) Infinity external amplifier. Infinity supplies the Logic 55 W x 11 channel (605 Watt Max.) surround sound external amplifier and speakers. Autonet supplies the head unit."
 
So I am assuming the subwoofer is probably there, or should be. Then, according to the x710bt installation manual, there are instructions to connect straight through to a subwoofer or via the external amplifier.
 
So it's a bit baffling to me why the subwoofer should not be operating independently according to the head-controls -- that is, on the head-unit I can turn the subwoofer on or off, and there is no difference in the low audio. I can reverse the phase and level, and there is no difference in the low audio.
 
Sure, the low audio can be set powerful but it is like an ordinary good system with bass control, not the exceptionally distinct low audio from a separate, proper subwoofer.
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Re: 2009 Santa Fe Limited with Pioneer x710bt [eebrom] by eebrom
Oct 19, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: eebrom (Oct 19, 2009 9:18 am)

OK, I called the installation folks again, and it appears that to get the good, separate subwoofer sound he would either need to put in a separate amp wired specifically to the subwoofer, or rewire the inside of the Infinity amplifier. Of course, only the first option would be his sensible recourse. What the heck, for a couple of hundred bucks, I think it's worth the added enjoyment -- only I wish they had told me first.
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Re: 2009 Santa Fe Limited with Pioneer x710bt [eebrom] by denvertrakker
Oct 19, 2009 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: eebrom (Oct 19, 2009 9:48 am)

Sorry, you didn't mention that you had the Infinity system - that's a whole different animal. There is no need to do anything to the inside of the Infinity amp - a car stereo installer with the proper training and information should know about a device from Metra Electronics called a "differential convertor", which drops speaker level to line level for the amp, and supplies a "turn on" signal to the amp. This ONLY applies if you had the Infinity system originally. As far as connectors are concerned, the factory connector that originally supplied signal and turn on should be able to be re-used. I strongly suggest you find an installer who's comfortable with this - it can be a nightmare, especially since the Infinity system has problems of its own.
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Re: 2009 Santa Fe Limited with Pioneer x710bt [denvertrakker] by eebrom
Oct 19, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: denvertrakker (Oct 19, 2009 11:13 am)

Thanks so much, denvertrakker. Trouble is, the consumer, like me, has to become an expert (almost) in order to recognize an installer who really knows what he should know. Before I proceed I'll phone around to see if there might be someone who at least gives a better impression that they know what I'm wanting. It seems simple to me because the installation manual says that the Pioneer x710bt can be connected directly to a subwoofer without using an auxiliary amp -- or not, by a switch(screen press) on the head unit. I'm supposing their difficulty is using the Infinity amplifier separately for the subwoofer without interfering with the controls for balance and fade and level.
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Re: 2009 Santa Fe Limited with Pioneer x710bt [eebrom] by denvertrakker
Oct 19, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: eebrom (Oct 19, 2009 11:46 am)

"Trouble is, the consumer, like me, has to become an expert (almost) in order to recognize an installer who really knows what he should know. Before I proceed I'll phone around to see if there might be someone who at least gives a better impression that they know what I'm wanting."
 
A good start would be to look for a shop that's MECP certified (Mobile Electronics Certified Professional). Not a guarantee by any means, but certainly likely to be more knowledgeable.
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Re: 2009 Santa Fe Limited with Pioneer x710bt [denvertrakker] by eebrom
Oct 19, 2009 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: denvertrakker (Oct 19, 2009 12:13 pm)

Thanks again, denvertrakker.
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Has Anyone Seen a 2010 Santa Fe Yet? by asa
Nov 06, 2009 (3:26 pm)
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Just wondering if anyone has seen the new restyled 2010 Santa Fe on a dealer lot yet? I'm wondering if Hyundai added hinged glass in back like the Tucson has. Hinged glass would make all the difference in our garage with being able to access stuff in back like groceries, without needing the space behind the vehicle to swing the tailgate up.

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