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#51 of 80 Re: Article Comments: Hyundai Santa Fe Full Test [steve_]
Jul 25, 2006 (8:44 am)
That's what I was refferring too.
#52 of 80 Scott Oldham
Jul 25, 2006 (9:14 am)
"As much as I like the way this SUV looks, both inside and out, its depth of engineering and level of refinement remain a few clicks behind the big boys."
Please, pray tell, Mr. Oldham, what vehicles do you mean by "the big boys"?
If you're referring to the CR-V and the RAV4, you've lost all credibility with me. The level of refinement in the 2007 Santa Fe clearly exceeds those vehicles. Not even close.
It's fine not to like the Santa Fe, but come on, the interiors of the RAV4 and CR-V just aren't that great.
#53 of 80 Re: Scott Oldham [jrock65]
Jul 25, 2006 (9:28 am)
I wouldn't even compare it to the CR-V or the RAV4. It is bigger than them both. It's more the size of the Highlander, and while it is barely smaller than the Pilot, it is more fuel efficient and much better looking.
#54 of 80 Re: Scott Oldham [jrock65]
Jul 25, 2006 (10:40 am)
There is an old story about a princess being unable to sleep on a pile of several mattresses because there was a pea hidden under the bottom mattress. Mr. Oldham & her would make a perfect match. He needs to reserve his road tests to the over $40,000 rigs to keep his hands and butt in cushy, well supported, and pampered comfort. We wouldn't want to see a blister down there would we?
Joe in Texarkana
#55 of 80 Re: Scott Oldham [jrock65]
Jul 25, 2006 (7:32 pm)
he must have compared santa fe to fx45's, rx330's, new audi suv, and etc. LOL
he lost all the credibility with those ignorant remarks.
#56 of 80 That's the point
Jul 26, 2006 (10:24 am)
Having a second opinion that doesn't just kiss up to everyone else is the whole point.
Having that kind of honesty should increase our credibility not diminish it. What good would it do if every review we published had two second opinions that essentially said "I completely agree." THAT would be lame.
Jul 26, 2006 (10:53 am)
"But let's get real, people. There still isn't a Hyundai around that's as well built or as rewarding to drive as the Toyota, the Honda or the Mazda it competes with. Not the Elantra, not the Sonata and not this Santa Fe."
elantra is an old car, so it doesnt count.
sonata is a great value at 18k which is leaps and bounds better than the previous version. so he must like mazda 6 better than sonata, but many of us don't think so. sure camry and accord is better, are they 5-6 grand better? no. sonata is legit competitor. and i've never heard any recalls for sonata yet. he must skipped reading about toyota's bad qualities lately.
and santa fe? santa fe is "as well built or as rewarding to drive" then any competitors out there. i'm sure he didn't test drive it. if he did, he wouldn't say such an ignorant remarks. sure santa fe might not be your next SUV, but it is one of the strongest competitor out there. saying it's not "as well built or as rewarding to drive" then honda toyota is saying i'm a 'hyundai hater'.
last time i checked the new santa fe owns crv, rav4, give the run for the money against pilot, and many people think it's better than the highlander.
what more does he want?
i really wish that he go back in time just 10 years ago, and how hyundai was like back then. we all should be praising hyundai.
#58 of 80 Re: That's the point [briancam]
Jul 26, 2006 (10:54 am)
"Having a second opinion that doesn't just kiss up to everyone else is the whole point.
Having that kind of honesty should increase our credibility not diminish it. What good would it do if every review we published had two second opinions that essentially said "I completely agree." THAT would be lame."
nothing wrong with having a second opinion. but it's wrong to belittle a car company like hyundai. all they did was make nice cars after nice cars, with good values and long warranties.
you don't have to like it, you don't have to buy it, but don't say things like it's not better than honyota. because all he is saying is "i'm a hater"
santa fe may not be better than honda or toyota, but it's an equal competitor. it's apples to apples. 4 year old should know that.
#59 of 80 Re: That's the point [briancam]
Jul 26, 2006 (3:07 pm)
It's totally fine to have second opinions that don't agree or are negative about the vehicle.
But all he does is make blanket statements like "It's not as refined as the big boys" and "No Hyundai is as good as a Honda or Toyota or Mazda." It would be nice to know exactly what vehicles he is comparing the Santa Fe to, and it what regards the Santa Fe doesn't measure up.
#60 of 80 Re: HE IS WRONG [wolverinejoe80]
Jul 26, 2006 (5:10 pm)
Hyundai is better now, no question. I'd even consider owning an Azera if it weren't for the awful seating position but Honda, Toyota, Nissan and even Mazda have all made steady improvements as well.
I believe there aren't any Hyundais as well built or rewarding to drive as competing Hondas and Toyotas. HOWEVER, Hyundai offers a better value and in some cases better looking vehicles.
Camrys and Accords or Highlander for that matter may not be $5,000 better but they are better.
It's great that the new Santa Fe is better than the previous version but that line of reasoning is going to start wearing out very soon as many buyers will not recall the Excel and simply expect the Sonata or Santa Fe to be as good as or better than the competition no matter what the price or warranty.