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#340 of 720 Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [jhl1]
Apr 15, 2008 (1:40 pm)
we have +12v with the key on and off
??? you mean on the green wire of the injectors?...THis should be dead with key off....
At this time, I have personnally had no problem of that type,. so this info is strictly based on the diagrams. Some measurements can lead to confusion as measuring voltage on a disconnected socket without any load can measure a stray voltage, specially with electronics, that would collapse as soon as a load is connected. So I suggest you make a connection on one of the green wires, and use it to feed a test lamp, the other side of the lamp to ground, then try key ON and OFF. YOu can use a spare parking bulb as a test light, not a stop lamp as their current is much larger and the injector drivers are designed for just 1 amp.
#341 of 720 Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [lmp4]
Apr 15, 2008 (6:01 pm)
When the relay is plugged in the green wire is 12v with the key off & the black wire with white stripe is the same way. The mechanic changed the relay and no difference.
#342 of 720 Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [jhl1]
Apr 16, 2008 (4:43 am)
UNplug the MAIN relay for a test or pull out MAIN fuse out; and check those diagrams...specific to 2001 (the former one was 2000, most similar except BK/W wire .....
Black/white is feed to idle air control motor and should also be OFF with key off.
+12V to injectors and dile control comes from the main relay, not the F.P. relay. But if MAIN relay is frozen ON, then the F.P. relay will also be ON all the time. Since you have another relay available, replace the MAIN relay for a test.
Someone had a quite similar problem recently on this or another forum, However this condition as such would not stop the car from starting....but it would drain the battery if car was left alone for some time.
CHeck under the seat for traces of water to the computer. The MAIN relay always has 12V on one side of its coil, and the other side of coil is grounded at KEY ON by the computer (located lower right side trim panel below the instrument panel, on the passenger side of the vehicle).
#343 of 720 Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [lmp4]
Apr 17, 2008 (6:15 pm)
We have 12v to all the injectors now but no ground signal when cranking the motor over. ?????????
#344 of 720 Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [jhl1]
Apr 18, 2008 (10:29 am)
...the grounding by the computer happens by very short impulses, except at KEY ON where "primer" is 1-2 sec.
Cam sensor is part of the injection circuit, and has been suggested several times in similar cases, but I can't remember if one came with a definite solution saying that "the cam sensor was the culprit"....
It is not clearly documented with this engine, but in my other car, a faulty cam sensor will just cause "random" injection and the car will run anyway, but then , it could give a "running rough" feeling....
But this would pop a code, anyway....
Check al connectors....and another forum member had found broken/shorted wires at the firewall near the computer .
#345 of 720 Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [lmp4]
Apr 21, 2008 (4:46 pm)
The mechanic checked all wires including the wheel well area and all were good. He still has no ground signal to the injectors. I'll email you some info.
#346 of 720 Re: Power Window Issue [tcolburn]
Apr 21, 2008 (5:58 pm)
I have had the prolem at various times with my 98 kia.... What seemed to cause the problem is the wiring coming out the side of the door was getting grimped or bunched up somehow? I could straighten out the wiring and the window would work fine. Its been just a few times it has happened and I have not had to fix anything. Hopefully the same will work for your daughter.
#347 of 720 2001 kia sportage died on me in traffic-help?
Apr 24, 2008 (5:56 pm)
I was driving home and it decided to just quit. my husband is trouble shooting to find out whats wrong. we cant get a repair manual. does anyone know where we can get a good repair manual or help trouble shooting our problem. my husband has repaired all of our vehicles over the years but this is different.
if you can truly help please email me. tracieeobellsouth.net
#348 of 720 Re: 2001 kia sportage died on me in traffic-help? [trace2001kia]
Apr 24, 2008 (9:12 pm)
This may help: Online Repair Manuals
if you can truly help please email me...
That would deprive others of valuable information - let's keep the discussion here!
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#349 of 720 Re: 2001 kia sportage died on me in traffic-help? [trace2001kia]
Apr 25, 2008 (1:47 pm)
Good luck. My mechanic who is a 30 year master tech can't figure out the one we got. We have changed several items, checked wires, changed the computer and it still won't run. We found a seller on ebay who is from Canada that sells CD rom disc for Kia Sportages and my mechanic says it is a good disc.