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1999 sportage flickering issue by ort102
Apr 11, 2008 (8:33 pm)
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Hi all i had wrote a post sometime ago about how my headlights,dashlights (also the lights around the gas and temp guage work whentey want) and domelight all flicker when i drive my car. I was just wonderinig if anyone has had the same problem and if so how did you correct it? Any help would be great.
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Re:(jhl1) (ort102) try this by jasinski
Apr 12, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: ort102 (Feb 02, 2008 8:18 pm)

i had a lot of stuff messin up on mine to (read blog jasinski)there are 2 wire harnesses under pass. side dash way up there. I took my fender off and pulled boot from the body pull out wires and check the harnesses for IGS i had 3 bad wires cut in new wires every thing works great. fenders are easy to remove napa has clips if any break.
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Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [jhl1] by lmp4
Apr 14, 2008 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: jhl1 (Apr 11, 2008 7:35 pm)

Just this diagram to show what is involved....including cam sensor....
Check cam sensor connector, ground, +12V with key ON on all injectors green wire.
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Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [lmp4] by jhl1
Apr 14, 2008 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: lmp4 (Apr 14, 2008 4:03 am)

We checked the power and we have +12v with the key on and off. The injectors wont open to start. The mechanic would like to talk to you if possible on the phone.
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Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [jhl1] by lmp4
Apr 15, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: jhl1 (Apr 14, 2008 5:03 pm)

we have +12v with the key on and off
??? you mean on the green wire of the injectors?...THis should be dead with key off....
 
At this time, I have personnally had no problem of that type,. so this info is strictly based on the diagrams. Some measurements can lead to confusion as measuring voltage on a disconnected socket without any load can measure a stray voltage, specially with electronics, that would collapse as soon as a load is connected. So I suggest you make a connection on one of the green wires, and use it to feed a test lamp, the other side of the lamp to ground, then try key ON and OFF. YOu can use a spare parking bulb as a test light, not a stop lamp as their current is much larger and the injector drivers are designed for just 1 amp.
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Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [lmp4] by jhl1
Apr 15, 2008 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: lmp4 (Apr 15, 2008 1:40 pm)

When the relay is plugged in the green wire is 12v with the key off & the black wire with white stripe is the same way. The mechanic changed the relay and no difference.
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Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [jhl1] by lmp4
Apr 16, 2008 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: jhl1 (Apr 15, 2008 6:01 pm)

Which relay?
UNplug the MAIN relay for a test or pull out MAIN fuse out; and check those diagrams...specific to 2001 (the former one was 2000, most similar except BK/W wire .....
 
Black/white is feed to idle air control motor and should also be OFF with key off.
 
+12V to injectors and dile control comes from the main relay, not the F.P. relay. But if MAIN relay is frozen ON, then the F.P. relay will also be ON all the time. Since you have another relay available, replace the MAIN relay for a test.
Someone had a quite similar problem recently on this or another forum, However this condition as such would not stop the car from starting....but it would drain the battery if car was left alone for some time.
 
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/avigex/relays2001.gif
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/avigex/injectors2001.gif
 
CHeck under the seat for traces of water to the computer. The MAIN relay always has 12V on one side of its coil, and the other side of coil is grounded at KEY ON by the computer (located lower right side trim panel below the instrument panel, on the passenger side of the vehicle).
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Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [lmp4] by jhl1
Apr 17, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: lmp4 (Apr 16, 2008 4:43 am)

We have 12v to all the injectors now but no ground signal when cranking the motor over. ?????????
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Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [jhl1] by lmp4
Apr 18, 2008 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: jhl1 (Apr 17, 2008 6:15 pm)

...the grounding by the computer happens by very short impulses, except at KEY ON where "primer" is 1-2 sec.
Cam sensor is part of the injection circuit, and has been suggested several times in similar cases, but I can't remember if one came with a definite solution saying that "the cam sensor was the culprit"....
It is not clearly documented with this engine, but in my other car, a faulty cam sensor will just cause "random" injection and the car will run anyway, but then , it could give a "running rough" feeling....
But this would pop a code, anyway....
Check al connectors....and another forum member had found broken/shorted wires at the firewall near the computer .
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Re: 2001 kia sportage injectors issue [lmp4] by jhl1
Apr 21, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: lmp4 (Apr 18, 2008 10:29 am)

The mechanic checked all wires including the wheel well area and all were good. He still has no ground signal to the injectors. I'll email you some info.

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