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#287 of 707 Re: Kia Sportage 2001 - Transfer Case Exploding [marika1]
by lmp4
Mar 13, 2008 (8:54 am)
This car cannot physically be fitted with anything else than what duplicates the original. So whatever the labelling, what was installed is not the cause of your problem.
THe most ..and, in fact, the only probable cause for overtorquing the transfer case is running on dry pavement with the 4WD engaged. THis 4x4 is labelled "part time 4WD" and MUST NEVER ..never never...be run on asphalt in 4x4 because it has no differential between front and rear drive shafts and any difference in front and rear wheel speed (like when turning) will overstress the transfer case with the eventual result you describe.
Sorry that happens after $1700.
Look for salvage yards for a replacement T-case...even e-bay, may be,...and come back for further info as you wish. Please also state what type of new hubs were installed as there are special precautions in using the auto-mechanical type for the sake of the hubs themselves (as opposed to the original vacuum type).
#288 of 707 Re: Kia Sportage 2001 - Transfer Case Exploding [marika1]
by lmp4
Mar 13, 2008 (12:40 pm)
Now....may be procure more details on the "nature" of the explosion (is the case cracked and oil spliled out) and what do you describe as a "cutting the transmission line".
#289 of 707 KIA 2005 Sportage marker lights
by freds6
Mar 13, 2008 (2:23 pm)
I have a KIA Sportage 2005 4WD. I don't know if the term is correct, but the small orange light just above the headlight and to the right is burned out. This is the light that lights up when going to first click on the headlight switch.
I looked in thinking I can change a simple light bulb. WRONG! The area is so packed with stuff that I can't even identify where the connector or housing is for this light. I sure don't want to go to a dealer and spend $40 or more just to replace a light bulb.
Can anyone help? PLEASE....
#290 of 707 Re: Kia Sportage 2001 - Transfer Case Exploding [lmp4]
by marika1
Mar 13, 2008 (2:51 pm)
Hi, thanks so much for the reply. I can assure you that the vehicle was put in four wheel drive during a snow storm. roads were totally snow covered. I was told by the mechanic that when the car was put into four wheel drive something jammed it which caused the transfer case to explode. (we only made it a couple of miles before it exploded) You mentioned something about the hubs being replaced. The two front wheel hubs were replaced (XDL OKO1A3320xB), along with the front left axel and shaft, wheel bearings. If you have any further information which might be helpful, that would be great. Thanks so much for your time.
#291 of 707 Re: Kia Sportage 2001 - Transfer Case Exploding [marika1]
by lmp4
Mar 13, 2008 (7:10 pm)
....something jammed....??
..if that happened right after the wheel bearing change, I could have suspected the wheel bearing was adjusted too tight..and that can cause a wheel bearing to seize, I've seen it happen... but this is not dependant of running in 4WD..so it should have occurred before...
....just confirm nothing was changed in the front differerential...($1700....that must cover a lot of parts...???_...I can't imagine someone might have replaced the differential with the wrong ratio....which would be relevant of causing havoc as soon as 4WD is engaged...but this would be almost not imaginable....(.I'm just thinking out loud...)
..is it possible the front driving shaft (between t-case and differential) got loose ?
DO you use oversize tires?...
Can you take photos of the underneath?
..??? part number for the hubs are unknown to me...usually the original hubs are changed to Warn auto-mechanical, which involve changing the spindle nuts..the one that keep the bearing properly tight..so this info can be related ..as the spindle nut has to be blocked by a key: if the key was forgotten, there is a possibility that engaging the 4WD would force the spindle nut on right side ...to get tighter and seize the bearing...this is speculation at this point, but I would certainly check if the spindle nut key was properly installed....you should then have felt a sudden braking effect as the bearing seized...
Other than that....I'm left with a freak incident....but... that occurred after work was performed on these components..of course, it leads to thinking there is some connection.....an unwanted number of aircraft accidents or incidents occur just after the plane went through maintenance....so......
At this moment, can you move the vehicle ?
What is the condition of the t-case? is it visibly cracked ?
IN any case, keep us informed of the development...
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#292 of 707 Re: KIA 2005 Sportage marker lights [freds6]
by lmp4
Mar 14, 2008 (5:53 am)
Sportage 2005..small orange light just above the headlight and to the right is burned out.
YOu have to take the headlight cluster out to change that bulb. Check this out that I picked up from KIa website.
You can register at www.kiatechinfo.com and browse through and download almost anything about your car.
#293 of 707 Re: KIA 2005 Sportage marker lights [lmp4]
by freds6
Mar 14, 2008 (2:00 pm)
Thank you very much for the assist. It is appreciated.
#294 of 707 Re: Kia Sportage 2001 - Transfer Case Exploding [lmp4]
by marika1
Mar 14, 2008 (4:03 pm)
Well I had an "expert" do a report on my car. He took pictures, etc and stated that the damage was not as a result of the work that was done on my vehicle and that it was a failed U-joint which had apparently dried out and corroded and literally snapped. The "commercial" car centre I initially took my vehicle to in January 2008 told me they did a report card on my car and a U-joint was never mentioned to me as needing to be replaced. Would this be something that would have been apparent when working on my car in January. I'm told now that I need a new transfer case assembly and front drive shaft. Your comments are very much appreciated. Thanks so much
#295 of 707 Re: Kia Sportage 2001 - Transfer Case Exploding [marika1]
by lmp4
Mar 14, 2008 (7:07 pm)
it was a failed U-joint
..so, it was indeed possible the front driving shaft (between t-case and differential) got loose !
....obviously at the differential ! I can imagine the thump that followed and the result is consequential. But I have just changed a U-joint on that driving shaft 2 months ago, and cannot imagine it would "break" by itself, rust or anything else. ...it it broke, that means one part is still BOLTED to the differential.....is it? Hard to speculate from here, but I'd like to see the photos...
My U-joint had given sign of fatigue a L O N G time ago, vibrations and noise when in 4WD...and since it was used only for brief episodes, I would not care much but around last Christmas, it became really scary and the vibration was intolerable an potentially a risk for other components and with winter just beginning, then I changed it....all this just to signal it does not come "on a sudden".....Of course, when installing the driving shaft back on the car, I made sure all bolts were properly tightened.....
#296 of 707 Re: Kia Sportage 2001 - Transfer Case Exploding [lmp4]
by marika1
Mar 17, 2008 (4:23 pm)
Thanks for your response. What I was wondering though, is the U-Joint something that would have been visible during the work they performed. Would they have had to see that this U-joint was corroded and ready to snap. Here is what they did do the car: Install left front axel, shalf, wheel bearings, wheel hubs, remove left front steering knuckle, replace needle bearing for input shaft, replace seals. replace left axel shaft, replace left innter and outer bearing, replace updated 4WD hub assemblies. They also told me that when I complete this work, the car would be fine for the next 10 years (which is apparently not the case). I have the photos on my computer but I am not sure how to add them to this reply. Do you have a separate email that I could email them to??">