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MAZDA3: Official 2007 U.S. Info

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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [mpg60] by kronogoose
Aug 31, 2006 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: mpg60 (Aug 31, 2006 5:10 am)

Are you located in the US?
 
I just visited the Mazda USA site, and there was no option, either from the "Build A Vehicle" link on the home page, or on the "Wild Child" site, to build an MS3.
 
I did check the Features and Specs page, which shows peak HP at 263 and peak torque at 280. This has been recently updated, as the last time I checked it showed peak HP as "TBD" (to be determined). I believe the current issue of Sport Compact Car reported 263 HP.
 
Where you building an MS6 instead? It's peak HP is 274.
 
Let's hope for some more reviews--SOON!
 
Thanks,
 
Greg
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [mpg60] by kronogoose
Aug 31, 2006 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: mpg60 (Aug 31, 2006 5:10 am)

It was interesting to compare the EPA MPG estimate for the MS3 and MS6...the MS3 is rated at 20 city/28 hwy and the MS6 at 19/25. I guess the lower weight and torque management on the MS3 really do make a difference.
 
Greg
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [kronogoose] by mpg60
Aug 31, 2006 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: kronogoose (Aug 31, 2006 6:48 am)

Hi,
 
The link is there. I am in Atl GA.. It is too the left under the wildchild link in the black and white section under shopping tools. I may have spoken to early though on the HP. The main wildchild page states 263. But I am not sure why they don't translate that to the summary on the build your own link. When you get to the end for viewing the summary of what you just built it states 274hp. They are messing with us. I know it.
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [mpg60] by mpg60
Aug 31, 2006 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: mpg60 (Aug 31, 2006 7:34 am)

MAZDASPEED3 Grand Touring Model
 
Destination Fee $595
 
274-hp 2.3L DOHC 16-valve inline 4-cylinder Standard
 
Front-Wheel Drive Standard
  
6-Spd Manual $23,955 Standard
 
$595
 
Standard
 
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [mpg60] by aviboy97
Aug 31, 2006 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: mpg60 (Aug 31, 2006 7:37 am)

The MS3 has 263bhp, not 274bhp.
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [aviboy97] by dc_driver
Aug 31, 2006 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 31, 2006 11:27 am)

I think he is pulling that info directly from Mazda.. Maybe they need to update their website if they are wrong..
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [dc_driver] by aviboy97
Aug 31, 2006 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: dc_driver (Aug 31, 2006 1:04 pm)

I have read the Mazda site, I did not see what he saw. Maybe i will comb through it again...
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [aviboy97] by rorr
Aug 31, 2006 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 31, 2006 1:09 pm)

"I have read the Mazda site, I did not see what he saw. Maybe i will comb through it again..."
 
I found it.
 
Kinda funny (but I'll bet it's a glitch).
 
Go to the Mazdaspeed3 'wild child' page.
 
On the left hand side (under shopping tools) select "Build a Mazdaspeed3".
 
Select the trim (sport or Grand Touring), color, and then options until you get to the last page ("Summary").
 
On the left hand side you'll see "print window sticker". Select that.
 
A little window pops up with 'your' Mazdaspeed3 window sticker showing trim/colors/yada yada yada.
 
ON THAT WINDOW STICKER, under "engine" it says "274hp"
 
It also lists the mileage as 20/26 on that 'window sticker' which doesn't agree with the 20/28 number listed elsewhere. I think all that was found was a typo. BFD.
 
Like it really REALLY matters whether it is 'rated' at 274hp or 263hp. It is what it is. I don't know too many people saying "gee, I'd buy one if it only had 274hp instead of 263hp".
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [rorr] by dc_driver
Sep 01, 2006 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Aug 31, 2006 2:40 pm)

"Like it really REALLY matters whether it is 'rated' at 274hp or 263hp. It is what it is. I don't know too many people saying "gee, I'd buy one if it only had 274hp instead of 263hp".
 
I totally agree with you, but Mazda has misstated HP numbers in the past and got a black eye for it.
 
Personally, I would take either HP numbers in my Mazda3...
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Re: Mazda Speed 3 [dc_driver] by rorr
Sep 01, 2006 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: dc_driver (Sep 01, 2006 5:53 am)

"I totally agree with you, but Mazda has misstated HP numbers in the past and got a black eye for it."
 
Then perhaps they should rate it conservatively and not get into a numbers game.

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