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New Caliber Owners - Give Us Your Report!

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7,200 mile report - 1.8 5 Speed SE by micweb
Mar 29, 2007 (9:54 am)
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I got the PCM (power control module) reflashed yesterday at the dealer, and now it is much easier to pull away from a stop. I was having a problem stalling the motor because the "tip in" on the throttle wasn't aggressive enough - basically when I tried to give it a little extra gas, it wouldn't get the extra gas, which resulted in me using too much throttle sometimes on pulling away.
 
You see, our cars are governed more by the computer programming than by the sparkplugs, condenser, points, and coil, the traditional "tune up" points (wait - condensers and points have long been history). Even throttle bodies are moving to electronic, micro-motor control instead of cable control, which means the amount you move the throttle pedal doesn't correspond, necessarily, to the throttle position in the throttle body.
 
The computer "map" also governs the amount of fuel injection, timing, and variable valve timing, where the vvt system is sophisticated enough to respond to throttle and load, and not just rpm.
 
So essentially my Caliber got a "brain transplant" yesterday, and it either (i) performs much better, if you are an enthusiast, or (ii) doesn't feel any different, if you are numb.
 
Although I gave the engine smoothness high marks before, now its smoother, but even better, it "lugs" much better - there seems to be a lot more torque at the lower rpm. Before, the engine didn't come into its own until you revv'd it up. Now, I can pull from 20 mph in third, cruise at 30 in fourth. At the same time I can easily run it up to 50 mph in second gear. It just feels more willing and comfortable - a lot more like the 145 hp specs would indicate (but it only has 129 lb-ft of torque, small motor after all).
 
I've hear from other forums that getting the motor flashed reduces fuel consumption slightly. I'll report back on that later. For now, my commuter mileage has been consistent at 31-32 mpg per fill up, but my SF-LA mileage shot up to an average of 31 mpg on my last trip - no "aerodynamic penalty" this time. I attribute the better mileage, despite higher speeds (and hence more air resistance) to break-in.
 
I changed my oil at 2,500 miles (Motorcraft 5-20, a fine synthetic blend and the cheapest for 3,000 mile oil changes) and at 5,000 miles (Pennzoil Platinum, the cheapest full synthetic and easily good for 5,000 mile freeway driving). I will change the oil next at 10,000 miles and rotate the tires.
 
I still have a c-pillar rattle, and both front doors periodically refuse to latch, bouncing off the posts until I pull the door handle out slightly to disengage whatever is stuck. Chrysler has a door latch recall for the new Avenger, but apparently overlooked the Caliber.
 
Getting the motor "re-programmed" makes me happier about the car. With 7,200 miles it doesn't seem like anything major is going to go wrong, and eventually I'll grind away at the warranty department and get the door latches and c-pillar rattle fixed (I didn't want to overwhelm the service manager at the new dealer I selected with too many issues at once, when I went in yesterday).
 
Chrysler is working hard to address problems. They have a new March 12 TSB that addresses both driveability concerns and oil pressure flickering - this time they replace some portions of the oil delivery system. So clearly their engineers are in the field looking at things. I think for cars with a post March build date they should be pretty trouble free. I applaud Chrysler for making running production line changes, not waiting until '08.
 
For prospective new owners, I highly recommend:
 
1. Drive one yourself - all online reviews are woefully out of date, the car has improved that much.
 
2. Look at the label on the front door panel for the build date - make sure you drive and buy a "recent" (post March) build date car. You'll be less likely to have to visit the warranty department.
 
How do I rate the car? Pretty highly. I am seriously interested in trading in for an '08 Caliber next spring, maybe moving up to an SXT or even a 2WD R/T (I'd like the larger motor, though I have qualms about the possible stiffness of the suspension in the R/T).
 
On the other hand this aircon, stick shift, basic SE for 12,988 is a steal at that price.
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Re: Best Caliber Thoughts and Summary I've Read.. by daveydodge
Mar 30, 2007 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: micweb (Mar 29, 2007 9:54 am)

I believe you are correct on all accounts..I have had no problems with my SXT which I ordered last April and received last August. It has 12,800 miles on it with synthetic motor oil and 2.0L automatic..I am getting 28-29 mpg on a consistent basis. Far from a race car but I knew that going in and for the price and all the features and the outside styling...how can you beat the price??..Yes, there is a bit too much interior plastic but the good far outweighs the bad on this trendy crossover with I believe over 67,000 units sold in 2006!! Micweb did a great job with his Caliber talk and I think Dodge did well...look at the Ford Edge, Mazda CX7 and others with similar styles but much more expensive....similar to the truck industry all following Dodge in the Dakota and Ram designs. Dodge takes criticism, but they are creative and innovative!!
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Re: Best Caliber Thoughts and Summary I've Read.. [daveydodge] by micweb
Mar 30, 2007 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: daveydodge (Mar 30, 2007 5:18 am)

Thanks, and thanks for the gas mileage report. I may well get the CVT in my next Caliber so my wife can drive it occasionally. It's good to hear the CVT can return good gas mileage with careful driving.
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GEMA Global Engines by mirde98
Apr 26, 2007 (7:51 pm)
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Hey guys this is an interesting link on GEMA global engines co-developed by Daimler-Chrysler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi.
 
http://www.gemaengine.com
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Re: New Caliber Owners - Give Us Your Report! [pf_flyer] by burritomaker
Apr 30, 2007 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Jul 28, 2006 7:23 am)

I wonder if all caliber models come with engine cover,because mine does not,,sales man said "I do not Know" Is this trick to buy it separately?
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Re: New Caliber Owners - Give Us Your Report! [burritomaker] by bigtsr
Apr 30, 2007 (3:51 pm)
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Replying to: burritomaker (Apr 30, 2007 12:48 pm)

DC stopped delivering Calibers with the plastic
engine shroud about 3-4 months ago and your right,
if you want one now they are about $40.00
#117 of 170
One Year Caliber Owner Summary.... by daveydodge
May 29, 2007 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: bigtsr (Apr 30, 2007 3:51 pm)

Four Stars out of five from an honest and satisfied owner. After 17,200 mainly highway miles, all is well. Suggestions for future models are as follows...more firewall insulation to reduce engine noise, different tires to reduce road noise, a bit more power but not a big deal, less plastic on dash area, better visibility around car, and cushioned arm rests. Most of these ideas are somewhat trivial but would increase perception and value of the Caliber. For the price, looks and features the Caliber is indeed hard to beat and I would buy another one. Easy upgrades and options that are affordable such as chrome door handles, fog lights, mudflaps, silver grill, chrome gas cap all make the Caliber look sharp and it is a definite eye catcher driving down the street!! Like the hauling capacity and flexibility also and getting 29-30 mpg with synthetic oil on my 2.0L CVT engine.
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Re: New Caliber Owners - Give Us Your Report! [bigtsr] by nonnemacher
May 29, 2007 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: bigtsr (Apr 30, 2007 3:51 pm)

I have the plastic cover, but have noticed a few pix of Calibers for sale on eBay without them recently. I'm not sure what it is supposed to do exactly... I take it off when I change the oil to make sure I don't drip any oil on the outside of the valve cover. Its easy to take off but not very easy to get back on correctly
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Re: New Caliber Owners - Give Us Your Report! [nonnemacher] by bigtsr
Jun 13, 2007 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: nonnemacher (May 29, 2007 6:48 pm)

The cover(at least mine) is insulated on the bottom side
and seems to provide some noise abatement.
Mine is usually covered in dust and dirt so I clean it weekly and I guess it's better on the cover then on the
motor.
It makes it look like a lot of motor!!!!!!
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Re: New Caliber Owners - Give Us Your Report! [pf_flyer] by spike61
Jul 17, 2007 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Jul 28, 2006 7:23 am)

Got a new BLUE 2007 CALIBER R/T AWD with 6000 mi. on it. Love the car I have driven a large variety of vehicles cars, trucks etc. This is the best car I have ever driven in the snow it is like a snowmobile turns ,stops ,takes off like no other I ever drove handles, better than my Durango 4x4

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