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666 messages, Last post on Jun 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM
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Replying to: beargator56 (May 29, 2008 2:56 pm) Most likely, but do they have those HIDs on all the time? I don't recall seeing to many cars with those lights on during the day.
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Replying to: piast (May 29, 2008 5:26 pm) I usually had my fogs on at night with my HID headlights on the LR3. I prefer the extra light it gives near the ground. Either way, Mitsu shouldn't be advertising their premier version of a car with something "standard" if you can't get the car with it.
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Replying to: beargator56 (May 29, 2008 6:05 pm) Exactly. That is the point. Other cars with HIDs don't have DRL. Fog lights are standard on XLS. You upgraded standard lights (as on mine) with HID, at a cost of loosing fog lights. I would probably prefer to keep them and loose DRL, but for now this is the way.
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Replying to: piast (May 29, 2008 7:09 pm) When I was comparing vehicles, fog lamps are something that I considered a must have item. Knowing that the fogs aren't "standard" as they claim (or that you can't even get the option), I might have chosen a Mazda CX-7, Ford Escape, or something else. The thing is, you have to choose the luxury package for leather seating and heated seats. The HID lights are a part of that package. Also, you can't choose sun/sound without also adding the luxury. This means that you'd have to get a stripped down version of their top of the line XLS just to get fogs. |
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Replying to: beargator56 (May 29, 2008 8:01 am) |
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Replying to: rcpax (May 27, 2008 11:55 am)
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Replying to: beargator56 (May 29, 2008 8:01 am) A Mitsubishi dealer has shown me information where he infers that all Outlander XLS with P2 Package cannot have fog light harness and only have ‘Daytime running lights’ harness. He also infers that the Day time running lights harness uses the Fog lamp (lens) only to emit the DTRL through the cavities designed for proper fog lights assembling. He concludes that an Outlander XLS with P2 package (Xenon HID lights) cannot have fog light harness, and that the Mitsubishi brochure and Outlander Owner’s manual is in some way misleading in saying that the vehicle is sold with fog lights. In other words the Outlander XLS ( with P2 package) information should say that the vehicle has no fog light lamps only lens (used as into daytime running lights with a daytime running light harness) at least with Outlander sold in the USA. All the above came out after disputing the assertion of the salesman who persisted in telling me that the XLS with P2 package has fog lights. I said the stalk switch had no symbol that indicates to me that a fog light mechanism is in place and also there is no indicator lamp in the instrumentation cluster visible (or that comes on) after manipulating the stalk switch to all feasible positions. If this is true Mitsubishi America and Dealers in the USA may be breaking the law by selling a vehicle under false pretences by misleading customers to buy a product that does not provide the functionality that is advertised. Opinion of readers about this finding may be of extreme importance.
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Replying to: batman47 (Jun 01, 2008 8:47 am) |
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Replying to: batman47 (Jun 01, 2008 8:47 am) As for the scan of the brochure, I'm not sure which one that is. The sales brochure I have has "NATLBRO-08-006" on the back cover. This is the standard sales brochure that they sent me in the mail, and also the one at the dealership. It has a silver Outlander on a curve with some buildings in the background on the cover. In the rear of this brochure, it lists Equipment. The portion of the equipment for the Exterior has this listed for the first 3 features: ES LS XLS S S S Auto-off headlamps with Daytime Running Lights (DRL) - - P Xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with auto-leveling function A A S Fog lights with dark gray surround (act as DRL when combined with HID headlamps) Under listing for the Option Packages: - - O Luxury Package: Xenon HID headlamps with auto-leveling; power driver's seat; heated front seats; leather seating surfaces on 1st and 2nd row Also... there was some fine print for the luxury package that states, "Requires Sun & Sound Package"
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Replying to: 20vcq (May 30, 2008 10:45 am) For the few dealers and/or manufacturer's reps on this forum who continue to patronize us and claim this is either a driver or environmental issue, you'd be much better off in the long run helping to get this problem resolved. My ski team friends with the 5 year old Subies, Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, Jeeps, etc., can compare their 60K plus, five plus Colorado winter cars with 2 or 3 minor rock chips to my 5 month old Outlander with no less than 20 to 30 chips. They are all reasonably smart people, and the conclusion they draw is the same as mine. This is a manufacturing defect, plain and simple. You've already lost some of your most likely customers in the 20 or so people who are aware of the problems with my car first hand. Keep denying the problem and you'll lose many others who base their purchasing decisions on the consumer reviews here at Edmunds. I, for one, won't let this problem drop until it gets resolved.
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