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2007 GTI vs Audi A3

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#80 of 99
Re: MY FIRST YEAR ACCORD [andres3] by jitteryjoe_246
Mar 26, 2007 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Mar 25, 2007 9:25 pm)

Ummm....while I might not be thrilled with check engine lights and display computer problems, I'd prefer that any day to having my transmission replaced! That would sour me on a car REAL fast. A modern transmission should be bullet proof!
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TO ALL by eldaino
Mar 26, 2007 (9:30 am)
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Andres; vw is to audi as honda is to acura as nissan is to infinity etc
 
its all the same man. Never has there been such a huge, gargantuan ( i've always liked that word), astronimacal difference between 2 brands of a car make as far as reliabilty goes. The a3 and the gti share pretty much the same components; its a sheetmetal and interior differance. Same VW 2.0t engine. Same VW dsg transmission. Same a lot of stuff.
 
 I agree with joe; i'd take a few engine lights over a transmission problem anyday, even if it was covered under warranty. Logic and commonsense tells you that once the car is out of warranty, a check engine light is probably going to be cheaper than a transmission change.
 
And the bottom line is, if you are so happy that you have never had any 'real' problems with your accord, (except for that ever so small transmission replacement) you should rethink your interest in vw/audi product to begin with; we dont need another poster with nighmare stories about them.
 
i think we need to ease up of of 600kgolfgt, if he has had relatively no problems with this vw's, more power to him; he's a testament to the ability to have a reliable german car, and on this forum, its easy to see why people would scoff at that fact. 600k: keep on dubbin bro.
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Re: TO ALL [eldaino] by andres3
Mar 26, 2007 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 26, 2007 9:30 am)

Well.. a check engine light can be quite expensive, especially in CA where you have to pass smog tests, and if you don't you gotta fix whatever is broken; which could be an expensive distributor for example.
 
As for preferring 10 little problems to 1 major one... I don't know about that. 10 dealer visits vs. the inconvenience of just one? Also, if the tranny is fixed correctly with an "updated/revised" transmission under warranty, I think the chances you'll ever need another one for 200 K miles is extremely low; further reduced by the fact that Honda said the new tranny was warranted again as if from day 0 (so I got a whole warranty from the day it was installed, long after the rest of the vehicles warranty expires).
 
I admit, that was an embarrassing situation for Honda to have. But they dealt with it and took care of it. Would VW replace a transmission even 3 miles past warranty?
Honda has learned how to make V6 trannies now though, it looks like they've improved since 2003.
 
As for VW and Audi being like cars... well... only if they are made in the SAME factory. And Audi has different management than VW, sort of like their own entity within VW. Acura used to have better reliablity than Honda, now Honda has turned it around and is number 1. Again, unless it is the same workers in the same factory, reliability can be QUITE different.
 
Oh yeah, my Accord was built in the USA
Next time I'll get one that has a VIN number starting with a J.
#83 of 99
Re: TO ALL [andres3] by eldaino
Mar 27, 2007 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Mar 26, 2007 9:58 am)

Oh yeah, my Accord was built in the USA
Next time I'll get one that has a VIN number starting with a J.

 
most of them, if not all, are.
 

 I don't know about that. 10 dealer visits vs. the inconvenience of just one

 
you don't have to get a check engine light fixed at a local auto parts store. No biggie. And i'm very familiar with ca emissions; i'm a native orange county-er.
 
#84 of 99
Re: TO ALL [eldaino] by andres3
Mar 30, 2007 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 27, 2007 6:01 am)

Back in 2003 most of the 4 cylinder's were still made in Japan. And for 2007 my wife was able to buy a new Civic made in Japan, built in Japan, and assembled in Japan! That is good news, because her Japanese built and assembled 2005 Civic (which was perfect in every way, no rattles, no issues, no warranty trips and wasted time for 2 years and 26K miles) got totalled in an accident. I'll bet this Japanese built Civic performs similarly.
 
One of the most annoying problems with my American built Accord was the rattles that developed from about month #2. It didn't take long, though the dealer was able to fix most of the rattle issues quite effectively when I was able to isolate the cause of the rattle and pinpoint its location. I guess thats the most dissappointing thing about those Ohio workers. Why could the Japanese build a rattleless 17K car while the Americans couldn't do it for 23 to 24K.
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seats differ by kurtamaxxxguy
Mar 30, 2007 (8:14 pm)
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One thing I found comparing '07 Audi A3 to VW GTI and Passat was the VW's use a newer seat design that raises and lowers both the front and back of the seat.
 
The Audi A3 used the older VW design that C & D described as "martini glass" like (the front's hinged and the back only raises and lowers. Much harder to get comfortable in.
 
This doesn't apply if the above have powered seats.
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Re: MY FIRST YEAR ACCORD [600kgolfgt] by carfanatic007
Apr 01, 2007 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: 600kgolfgt (Mar 25, 2007 4:23 pm)

There is no comparison between VW and Honda. Honda is a quality, superior engineered automobile. VW is a laughing stock of inferior automobiles with horrible repair and maintenance issues. This includes VW's made in Germany. As a matter of fact all European cars have sub-par reliability compared to the superior Japanese makes. Even domestic makes (Ford/GM) are better than the Europeans.
#87 of 99
Re: MY FIRST YEAR ACCORD [carfanatic007] by jitteryjoe_246
Apr 02, 2007 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Apr 01, 2007 1:42 pm)

In that case it's too bad that the Japanese or domestics don't make a car that I'd want to drive (in the same class/price range as a gti).
 
Case in point the civic SI. Low torque and weird asexual star trek type interior styling. No thanks. Unfortunately it doesn't matter how reliable a car is if I have no desire to drive it!!
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Re: MY FIRST YEAR ACCORD [carfanatic007] by eldaino
Apr 02, 2007 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Apr 01, 2007 1:42 pm)

car fan, the anti vw slurs can be left out of this. You know i'm a honda guy too, but that doesn't mean that the whole superiorty as far as engineering goes ever comes into play when i compare the 2 vehicles.
 
As great as i think hondas are...vw' interiors still own.
 
And no, my rabbit has not had any problems what so ever. If you got a beef with europeans, thats fine, but no one here wants to hear about it. Have a nice day.
#89 of 99
Re: TO ALL [andres3] by eldaino
Apr 02, 2007 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Mar 30, 2007 9:22 am)

the accord has been being built in the us for awhile now; and if i'm not mistkaen, its a common misconception that many hondas were still being built in japan; i'm pretty sure that the rsx was the last one to be totally built there, while now only the civic hybrid is totally built in japan. (and still suffered a major recall.)
 
Maybe something like this applies to vw's and audi's, if they are made in mexico or wolfsburg etc, but hondas reliability has been penned on regardless of where they were built.
 
Anyway, this thread isn't about the accord so back to the subject at hand.
 
I forgot who posted it, but good point about the seats; the adjustment on the vw is superior and devoid of all 'martini glass' comparisons!

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