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99 messages, Last post on Jul 16, 2007 at 8:37 AM
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Replying to: jitteryjoe_246 (Apr 02, 2007 4:37 am) My latest MKV GTI so far so good. I let you know in a few months... |
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Replying to: mapssi (Jun 05, 2007 4:19 am) I like hondas an vw's equally, but for different reasons. Yes people, its ok to do that.
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 05, 2007 9:30 am) My Mazda 3 doesn't corner any better than my much lighter Mk2 VW GTI did. In fact my GTI developed some major torque-steering, while the Mazda 3 simply looses a bit of traction when applying a heavy foot around the corners. What does all of this mean? You generally need an upgraded suspension to effectively throw more weight around. |
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 05, 2007 9:30 am) By they way my 2003 accord ex that I kept for 2.5 years and put 54000+ on it, did not gave me any problems other then a wear check engine light that was chocking the car. When we reset the light the problem disappear! and it was solid but not as Europian car.
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Replying to: mapssi (Jun 07, 2007 5:39 am) maybe american companies do, but no so much the japs and honda in particular. having said that, i still appreciate alot of the little details vw comes up with. |
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I'm in the camp that generally prefers the styling of the A3 to the GTI, and I'm fairly comfortable admitting that that would be the primary reason I'd go Audi over VW. That said, I targeted the A3 as a car of interest since it came out, but have not been able to justify the vehicle due to ridiculously poor lease rates. As Audi refuses to support the vehicle with proper lease incentives, quotes for a moderately equipped 2.0T on a 24-month lease topped $600/mo. Last time I was car shopping I was disappointed by this fact and wound up going for an Infiniti G35 coupe- $525/mo for a $41k car versus $610/mo for a $35k car just seemed too logical to ignore. Now I'm shopping again and I'm really sad to see that things haven't changed. To that extent, I'm thinking the 4-door GTI might be a logical runner up. Sure, I'm not a huge fan of the styling, but it's got all the things I need (including a good dose of practicality versus my coupe), and lease rates are considerably more favorable. I don't think I'm the only one that's been put off by Audi's poor lease programs; I for one believe the A3 would've been a much more successful car if they could have provided better residual values and incentives.
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Replying to: joshknot (Jul 13, 2007 11:56 am) The A3 is a more upscale looking car, no doubt but as you pointed out, the leasing isn't supported.
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jul 13, 2007 12:53 pm) Still, I'm definitely looking at used A3's- seems that the poor residual value that hurts the leasing program has a positive effect on anyone looking to buy used.
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Replying to: joshknot (Jul 14, 2007 11:55 am) Say the car loses another 50% over the course of 3 years, that would mean you'd be out 11-12k (value of 11k) and that's an absolutely horrid worst case scenario. More than likely, the A3 will lose at most 50% of its value over 4 years so if you bought at 22k, you'd probably only spend 7-8k over 3 years on the car (resale value of maybe 14k). I've hooked some sweet leases in my life but i've yet to find a 3 year lease on an audi/bmw/infiniti level product for 10-11k total. |
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