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#382 of 598 Re: TSB RELEASED FOR 2010 ! ! ! [sk1969]
Dec 09, 2009 (8:50 am)
You ask questions only Toyota can answer. I wish I could answer them. What's to say the Frontier doesn't have a problem with it that is equal in problems. Do some more research in the Frontier forum. The cost of these vehicles is high. This is new technology being employed here generally speaking. In years past vehicles operated by means of mechanical operations. Now they are being controlled by electronics. Just think of all the computer controlled things out there. You buy a computer for your home or phone and they are obsolete before you get them home. Not to mention how fast they slow down and run into problems. There are 19 computers in the Tacoma. They are expensive to replace or fix. We're the guinea pigs for this technology. It is going to be a long road before they work correctly. Perhaps we as consumers better start asking more questions and proof that these things really work over time. You ever notice how they survey you right after a sale and how we being so tickled with a new car tell them everything is absolutely wonderful and what a great product they have? Then a few days to a few months afterwards we start to run into all the problems. This so called wonderful product isn't what we thought it was going to be. Quite honestly I wouldn't have a clue as to what if anything out there is any better. Good luck my friend I wish you well.
#383 of 598 Re: TSB for 2010 [jimmora]
Dec 09, 2009 (11:21 pm)
got mine flashed yesterday and so far, the truck is shifting much smoother. As noted by jimmora, TSB# is T-SB-0393-09. The callibration logic is not perfect as I'm still noticing slight hesitation. When in slight-heavy traffic and driving as if you are just sliding - a bit of hesitation can be felt by accelerating at that point then back to normal when gear changed from 1st to 2nd at approx 1500rpm. Overall, the truck seems to perform much better.
#384 of 598 Re: TSB for 2010 [pf168260]
Dec 10, 2009 (8:40 am)
I'm really glad to here that it has helped yet someone else. It is giving me more and more faith in the good this format can do. Go forth and smooth shifting to you.
#385 of 598 2009 Tacoma shifting issues CANADA
Dec 11, 2009 (5:00 pm)
This site has helped with my shifting problem. 2009 4x4 Tacoma 4 door 6 cyl. The codes used in Canada are different but quoted the TSB # posted here and they fix it.
The code here is TSB 3310. So far so good. Ill keep you posted.
#386 of 598 Re: TSB RELEASED FOR 2010 ! ! ! [sk1969]
Dec 11, 2009 (5:42 pm)
SK1969, I was in the market for a new truck last summer myself and was looking at the Frontier and Tacoma...and the posts in this forum helped me make up my mind for the Frontier (prior to the TSB). Of note, I owned a 2005 Tacoma prerunner dbl cab sb V6 4x2 with AT and sport package and liked it very much (traded it in after a few years for a car as i thought I didn't need a truck anymore which I regreted later for sure)...I did have a few problems with rattles and a suspension issue with the Tacoma, but overall it was a great truck.
Now that I've had the Frontier (V6 SE crew cab 4x2 AT) for 6months I'll say it too is a great truck and I've not had one problem to speak of, nor have two of my coworkers that have them either (one has a 2005 and the other has a 2006). I'm very satisfied with my purchase (although I realize it's only been 5 months).
The pros of the Tacoma over the Frontier IMO are the interior was a bit more durable (Frontier's plastic is easily scratched up), the gas mileage is a bit better (I averaged 17-20mpg in Atlanta with the Tacoma and am averaging 16-18mpg with the Frontier in that same traffic), the resale is better, styling is more "sporty" IMO, better turning radius for parking, better safety ratings, availability of a back up camera, more interior storage areas, better availability of trucks with different options, sliding rear window
The pros of the Frontier over the Tacoma (again IMO) are that the ride is a bit more comfortable, the interior is more car like, the seating position is MUCH better than the Tacoma's (I can see the road much better in the Frontier), the insurance is lower, the purchase price is lower for a comparably equiped truck, the styling is more "rugged", availability of a sunroof, fully boxed frame, 4 wheel disc brakes, rear window defroster, bed light, utili track system in the Frontier seems more durable to me (and it has tracks on the bed floor), storage areas under back seat are easier to access, lockable tailgate, less engine noise than the Tacoma.
Both trucks have comparable interior space and towing (Tacoma has a slight edge in both cases), bed size is fairly comparable, warranties are the same, engines are both excellent, and dealership experiences are similiar (so far). The things I definitely do not like about the Frontier are the larger turning radius and the fact that the center arm rest is too short (what were they thinking?). Anyhow, after owning both trucks in the last few years, I don't think you can go wrong with either as long as Toyota steps up and fixes the transmission and radio issues people are having...hope that helps...and good luck!
#387 of 598 Re: TSB RELEASED FOR 2010 ! ! ! [djwtarheel]
Dec 11, 2009 (8:59 pm)
Thanks for the review. There has been a lot of people asking for a comparison of the two vehicles. I didn't know but your assessment ought to go a long way for others. Best of luck.
Dec 12, 2009 (7:11 am)
Had the TSB installed this morning. Noticed a huge difference just in pulling out of the lot. Service technician was very happy I knew the TSB number because he was unaware of the new fix. In and out in a half hour. Excellent service. Now an excellent truck.
#389 of 598 Re: TSB RELEASED FOR 2010 ! ! ! [djwtarheel]
Dec 12, 2009 (9:20 am)
Thx a lot folks, that helps in decision making. Looks like a lower turning radius and the option of a rear view camera are features one can use every day. Price wise, the lower mileage in a Frontier seems to offset the cheaper price.
#390 of 598 Re: New 2010 TSB [pbish5486]
Dec 12, 2009 (11:08 am)
Just came back from the dealership after having the ECU updated per TSB 0393-09. Transmission performed flawless during the drive home. Even took a couple of detours to locations where in the past my 2010 Tacoma's transmission improperly downshifted and then upshifted with the surge/lurch. No repeat events today! Looks like the Toyota engineers got the fix right for this issue. Thanks Toyota for the early Christmas present.
#391 of 598 Re: Can someone post a copy of TSB 0373-09 [befuddled2]
Dec 14, 2009 (9:17 am)
I just tried the link with the correct html extension and it still reports an error and when you do a search no TSB with tht number exists. It would be great if anyone really does have a copy of the TSB 0373-09 that they cut and paste it in a reply so that we don't have to rely on hyperlinks.