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Re: 2009 Tacoma automatic - be afraid, be very afraid [kevin144]
by tacoma1958
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Jul 22, 2009 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: kevin144 (Jul 22, 2009 12:39 pm)
I don't know about Toyota "National", but Southeast Toyota had at least one complaint. It went to arbitration. At the very least, I'd call that a complaint. I traded my Tacoma on a Frontier. What a relief I don't have to drive that piece of shit anymore. It's a shame, too, becasue besides the transmission issue, it's a good truck.
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Re: 2009 Tacoma automatic - be afraid, be very afraid [tacoma1958]
by befuddled2
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Jul 22, 2009 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: tacoma1958 (Jul 22, 2009 2:24 pm)
You mention it went to arbitration. What was the result? I've applied for arbitration. Be sure to post the result please.
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Re: 09 Tacoma Trans [ccl1961]
by dboatrig
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Jul 28, 2009 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: ccl1961 (Jul 18, 2009 5:07 am)
Many of the descriptions of tranny problems here sound exactly like our '02 Lexus es300. The dealer and Toyota corporate responses are exactly the same (computer will learn, need computer update, etc). They eventually acknowledged it was an issue and sent notices to owners to have the dealer perform an updated computer mapping, but it did not fix the problem. If this is really an issue with the Tacoma also, they never will fix it either. Don't worry, you eventually get used to the hunting, jerking, over-revving, delayed shift response, etc.
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02 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 2.7L
by fflewisje
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Aug 01, 2009 (5:30 am)
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When I am at the stop light and then start accelerating away from the light, the back tires start to spin (normally when it is wet outside). I notice that initially there is little power for acceleration but then the truck "all of a sudden" accelerates, which normal causes the tires to start spinning. I wanted to know if anyone else is having this same problem, if anyone knows what the issue is, and how to fix this problem.
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Re: 02 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 2.7L [fflewisje]
by befuddled2
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Aug 01, 2009 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: fflewisje (Aug 01, 2009 5:30 am)
Sorry fflewisje, don't know what the problem is however, it certainly sounds like a computer problem. I'm becoming more and more convinced that the fly by systems developed by Toyota leave a lot to be desired. Like my problem keep posting here when you find a solution. Beware the phrase "normal characteristic". Good luck my friend.
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2009 Tacoma Transmission
by ccl1961
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Aug 01, 2009 (5:09 pm)
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I have to post this. I have bought a 2009 Tacoma about a week ago and during the test drive I made turns like described and every turn I got the truck to do what is described. And has done it since. Let me say this much. IT IS A NORMAL CHARACTERISTIC OF THE TRANSMISSION!!!! All that the trans is doing is downshifting into 1st when it's supposed to be in 2nd and I am sure there is a good reason for this. But there is NOTHING wrong with your transission!
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Re: 2009 Tacoma Transmission [ccl1961]
by tacomashane
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Aug 02, 2009 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: ccl1961 (Aug 01, 2009 5:09 pm)
ccl1961,
Trying to understand your hostility and why you would even take the time to post your message if it is a normal characteristic? How do you know it is a normal characteristic? Have you surveyed every single 09 Tacoma owner to know how many transmissions are actually behaving like this? Are you saying that every 09 Tacoma does this? Sounds like you work for Toyota. Apparently you don't mind a transmission that slips and gets hung up and revs your engine while it searches for the next gear. Would you call that smooth operation? Wait until you pull out into traffic and your tranny activates its NORMAL CHARACTERISTIC!
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- #175 of 380
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Re: 2009 Tacoma Transmission [ccl1961]
by tacomashane
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Aug 02, 2009 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: ccl1961 (Aug 01, 2009 5:09 pm)
ccl1961,
"All that the trans is doing is downshifting into 1st when it's supposed to be in 2nd and I am sure there is a good reason for this. But there is NOTHING wrong with your transission!"
And your above statement means there is nothing wrong "when it's supposed to be in 2nd"?
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Re: 2009 Tacoma automatic - be afraid, be very afraid [befuddled2]
by tacoma1958
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Aug 02, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: befuddled2 (Jul 22, 2009 6:58 pm)
Befuddled2: Sorry to take so long answering your question. My case went to arbitration. I elected the "documents only" format. I sent my paperwork in as did Toyota. I presented service tickets, copies of complaints to the NHTSA web site, a copy of the TSB issued for Camry transmissions, and a DVD with a short video of my dashboard (speedometer and tachometer) during a transmission slip. The arbitration team (who is on Toyota's payroll) denied my request fro re-purchase. They said I failed top prove my case with reasonable proof. I don;t know what, if anything, would have convinced them otherwise.
"normal characteristic": It was also a normal characteristic for Pintos to blow up when struck from behind. It was normal characteristic for Explorers to roll over when there tires had a blow out.
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Re: 2009 Tacoma Transmission [tacomashane]
by befuddled2
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Aug 02, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: tacomashane (Aug 02, 2009 6:22 am)
If I may add a note here. First off, the term "Normal Characteristic" is one used by the Toyota people. It defines their belief that it is not a problem and that is the way it is supposed to work. Not all of them do it. Hence the question what is different that makes this occur to some and not others. We have two Toyota products. The one the wife drives employes the same technology only under the name of Lexus. It does not do this. In fact, the transistion from one gear to another is barely discernible at all. My personal concern is that on roads that I drive visibility is a real problem. There are times when you commit yourself to go and at that point another vehicle appears from nowhere. I want to be sure that when I step on that accelerator to go it does. The computer taking it's time to decipher what gear it wants to be in could leave me or someone else being dead right. Not knowing whether it will react tends to make one more of a defensive driver out of necessity. Even so, you could end up dead right. It is my belief that this is a fixable problem and Toyota won't tackle the problem. It has definitely left me with ill regard for them. Good luck.
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