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#219 of 260 Re: 2010 Mazda Mzda5 - nowhere to be found [coolmazda5]
Sep 21, 2009 (6:51 pm)
Yes. There are a few MZ 5 even in my area, SoCal. They're all above 24k-29k. Basically all that's left are the very expensive ones. And even those are not in any significant numbers. 1-2 per dealer. Galpin has 6.
This situation is stagnant since the early August. That must affect the sales figures. I mean if I could have found the car I want, I would have bought it.
SO since then (middle of August) dealers told me there are no more 09 coming and the 2010 are not coming either. Why is that? If the 2010 is not ready to be introduced, make more 09.
I know a great deal of planning goes into what goes into production and what not, but I think this is a huge gap - two months and growing - without the car in showrooms.
As much as I love this car, if it doesn't come soon, I'll have to find a vehicle somewhere else.
Ford is advertising a "sun and sync" 319/mo lease for a Edge with pano moon roof and sync.
VW is having 0% 7 years loans on almost everything. I mean, c'mon!
That's not what I want, but I have to be able to make the doctor appointments and so on.
#220 of 260 Re: 2010 Mazda Mzda5 - nowhere to be found [vicenac]
Sep 22, 2009 (5:32 am)
How much would you like to pay for one?
As I understand, post C4C, dealers are having serious difficulties to move their inventory (no surprise there) so before you move on submit offers to each of the dealers around you and see their responses, I'm sure they want to sell the leftovers before the 2010s arrive
If you like at the prices paid around very few have really paid MSRP for them
#221 of 260 Re: 2010 Mazda Mzda5 - nowhere to be found [coolmazda5]
Sep 22, 2009 (10:50 am)
I thought that they will discount them....
We have a few iron clad requirements:
-interior has to be "sand" leather (cannot be black)
-exterior cannot be black
Because of the way Mazda groups the interior and exterior colors, our choises narows the selection.
The only qualified car in SoCal is a Red GT with an MSRP of over 29k (I don't know what they put inside that car).
I was looking for pay around 21k for a GT, so no nav, dvd or sat.
Most of the cars left have black interior. We have a CX-7 with black interior and that's it for us. Our previous Freestyle had sand leather and it was MUCH easier to keep clean (babies and milk spils, etc.)
So there. At some point, probably they'll sell the 29k for 21k, but I don't think that they'll do that this soon.
Plus, what if the 2010 has the new engine? I also REALY want that. I'd like to see what that car looks like... since I've been waiting/dreaming for years for this car.
#222 of 260 Re: 2010 Mazda Mzda5 - nowhere to be found [vicenac]
Sep 22, 2009 (11:18 am)
My bad, C4C stands for cash for clunkers. Yeah, everybody has different requirements, I own 2 Mazda5s and both are 5 Manual Transmission Sport with the popular package (that is the best extras I could get for a Manual). Wife and I love MT. I also had some challenges finding them, but once I found them it was easy to get them, manuals don't move fast in my area which is good.
BTW, here are the specs for the 2010, not many changes. The new model might come until 2011 (with a new engine I believe):
#223 of 260 Re: 2010 Mazda Mzda5 - nowhere to be found [coolmazda5]
Sep 22, 2009 (12:29 pm)
Oh, Thanks a lot! That helps!
So just the DSC. I've seen parts of that PR on other websites, but it seemed that they just re-used the last year review.
Good! I want a manual tranny, too, but Mazda has reasons to believe that the leather on the seats gets cought between the gears....
#224 of 260 High cost of routine check
Nov 01, 2009 (2:47 pm)
My 2006 Mazda 5 was out of warranty in August and I have had no problems with it. I took it in for a routine maintenance (61,000 km) and oil change this week which cost $1256: front brakes and rotors, rear shocks, transmission flush and oil change. Nothing was done while under warranty of course. So much for saving money on gas! Had to buy new tires at 40,000 km. Paint scratches very easily too. Neither the dealer nor Mazda would offer anything.
Feel like trading it in now. Beware.
#225 of 260 Re: High cost of routine check [unhappycanada]
Nov 01, 2009 (9:26 pm)
If the things you are listing were common "tear and wear" the warranty would not have covered them anyway. The maintenance indicated on your owner's manual has what is needed, plus the dealer's courtesy inspection given to you on every service should tell you how things are wearing and what might be needed, I'm sure not all of it started wearing off just after August 2009, when the warranty expired.
But hey, don't trade it now, you just put CAN $1256 in it
#226 of 260 Re: High cost of routine check [coolmazda5]
Nov 02, 2009 (10:08 am)
I agree. Plus, the price is really high. I understand that not everybody wants to get down on their knees and fix the car by themselves, but you can get a much better price then this by going to independent shops.
Usually a transmission flush is 100 tops, an oil change can be 40 (high). Let's say 300 per shock. That's 740. That leaves 500 for replacing the rotors and pads? There is nothing to adjust, deglaze or turn. Everything is new. Three screws out, three screws in.
Besides, my cousin has a Camry. By the 40.000 miles she had master cylinder failure, rear break piston failure, a set of tires and other scheduled maintenance, plus some interior ickies. How does it compare?
Uuu! And a battery, too.
#227 of 260 2012 Mazda5 Sport/Auto Owner
Jul 24, 2011 (7:35 pm)
I bought my 2012 Mazda5 Sport/Automatic in May of 2011; and in 2 months I have put 4,000 miles on it, and my wife and I love it more and more each day. I have noted that most of the negative comments about the car (performance, styling, gas mileage, etc.) are from non-owners. Here are my observations...
Best Car Ever for small families or empty nesters! I see the "emply nester" ads for the Toyota Venza, but I believe the Mazda5 has it beat--if for nothing else than the 6 seats rather than the usual 5. And then there's the difference in price! The options on the seating/hauling are excellent! The main reason I first considered the car was for the 6 seats. Yes, the back two are best for children, but my 6 foot son climbed back there to check it out. As he put it "I would't want to go on a family vacation back there, but it wouldn't be all that bad to go across town to dinner." My sentiments exactly, as you can't take 6 people if you don't have seats (and seatbelts) for 6! It works! And for four adults, each has their own seat with armrests and cupholders, and a bunch of room for luggage--much better than almost any other small car. But you do make a choice for hauling stuff--it's either 6 passengers and no stuff, or more stuff and fewer passengers. This last week I went with my son on a family vacation, and went out with 2 adults and 1 child, and a lot of tents, chairs, food, etc. I came back with 2 adults and 3 children, but less stuff--but I still brought back an ice chest, 2 chairs, a tent, 2 sleeping bags with bedding and pillows! And for those who care, I got better than 30 miles to the gallon on the trip with the air conditioning on!
Lets talk about mileage. I am getting 20 to 23 miles per gallon in town (Southern California) with the air conditioning on. It's more like 20 if I really put my foot into it, but always at least 20 and most often 23. The 5 speed automatic is just astonishing. If you are trying to save gas, you can get all the way up to 50 mph with less than 2000 rpm's on the tach. More normal acceleration is easily attainable with 2500 rpm's. The interesting part is if you put your foot into it, you can go over 4,000 rpms in each gear, and get very fast acceleration. I bought the automatic sport as I thought I would be using the "manual" shifting option a lot based on automatics and sticks I have owned over the years. But I actually am using it very little, as the transmission shifts right where you would want it to, depending on the acceleration you want to achieve--when you let up a little on the accelerator--perfect, smooth shifts! The car actually down-shifts automatically as you accelerate out of a corner or on a hill without jamming your foot down on the accelerator--just as you would want to do if you had a stick. Very impressive.
I purchased the Sport Automatic model, as it has all the options I really needed. My car looks great without the spoiler and the lower body moldings. Yes, I would have liked leather, but the nylon seats are really nice! You slide in and stay put, with easy to maintain fabric. It feels really good! Beyond that, the car has cruise control, power windows, power door locks with remote, vanity mirrors on both sides, a nice stereo (that can plug into my smartphone), temperature-set automatic heat and air conditioning (it works great), excellent power steering, 4 wheel disk brakes, and mag wheels. I would like to note here that some reviews complain of a harsh ride on the Mazda5, but with the Sport's 16" wheels (rather than the 17" found on the the Touring models), I believe I get a better ride with the deeper tire profile--you'll note that both tire outside diameters are the same. The handling is great (especially for a wagon), the sliding doors are super nice for adults and kids alike (even adults with disabilities can get in the back seat easily). All these features are "options" on many cars, I don't feel like I'm driving an "economy" car at all.
I would highly recommend this car to all who need it's multi-talented features. As one of my kids said "This isn't a car -- it's a Transformer!" It has economy or plenty of power--you choose. It can haul a lot of stuff or a lot of people -- you choose. Great quality everywhere; it's solid, comfortable (high seating positions) and easy to drive. The only other Mazda I ever owned was a second-hand GLC wagon many years ago. Mazda ads said the "GLC" stood for a "Great Little Car". That car was indeed a "GLC", but I believe the Mazda5 is an even better "Great Little Car". If you have questions, I will answer them to the best of my ability at mccrjkgmail.com.