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#38 of 97
Re: satellite radio [_hacksaw] by cablue
Jun 10, 2005 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: _hacksaw (Jun 08, 2005 11:01 am)

Just to let you know, Lexus can install XM radio in your 400h. Two dealers told me that they can do this in any of their cars, including the 400h.
As far as sunroofs go, I wouldn't buy a car without one. I love the light it brings into the car and mine is almost always at least popped up. Whenever I park, living in California where it's hot in the summer, I always leave it popped open to keep it from getting too hot inside. Early mornings or evenings it's wonderful. My husband, though, won't get one in his cars because he is tall and they do impinge on headroom. But he does appreciate it in my car. I open mine all the way often, except when it's cooking hot out or on the freeway. Occasionally we'll even do that with all the windows down, too. The kids love that.
#39 of 97
New 400h Mileage by shelt
Jun 18, 2005 (7:27 am)
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I just picked up my new Flint 400h Monday afternoon. I have a 24 mile commute on a four-lane parkway here in CT. In the morning, it's a clear shot. The afternoons are about 50% rush hour stop-and-go. So far, I've been cautious on acceleration, etc, but have cruised at 65-70mph when the road is clear.
 
My results on a 212 mile interval, which included about 20 miles around town, were 28.9 mpg! I was very surprised with the relatively high figures after seeing so many 23-24 numbers. A few things I've noticed -- 1) laying your foot into it from a standing start costs a lot more than I would have guessed (ie - many miles to nurse the mpg's back!), 2) the passing acceleration is great!, and 3) running the A/C hard at highway speed seems to cost about 1-2 mpg.
 
If I had to guess, I think my mileage would drop to ~24-25mpg if I start using the car's power and drive like I would in my other cars. Overall, I'm really happy so far. The only thing I've found a bit odd is that the electric-assist steering is a little heavy at highway speed, even compared to German cars. And....there's no excuse for not having the ability to either play mp3 cd's or connect an iPod. Other than that, perfect score so far...
#40 of 97
From my 400h owner's manual by hybrat
Jun 18, 2005 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: shelt (Jun 18, 2005 7:27 am)

Your vehicle is not designed to be driven off-road.
 
SUVs -- you've come a long way baby!
#41 of 97
Love my 400h by lexus400h
Jun 27, 2005 (8:41 am)
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You folks are great. I've been monitoring your forum for about three weeks to glean whatever insight I could to help formulate my decision take the 400h plunge. I'm happy to report I traded in my '02 Mercedes-Benz E-class last week and took a 400h home to meet the family. I must admit I was a little concerned I might miss certain aspects of the Mercedes, but so far this has been a home run and I would make the same decision again. This is my first Lexus and I'm very pleased with the overall quality built into this automobile. The fact that it's a hybrid is icing on the cake with a cherry on top. I've looked at SUV-type vehicles before because I like the interior flexibility to create more cargo room as needed, and sitting a little higher off the road, but the mpg ratings were always a huge turn off. To get the vehicle I've wanted and help save the environment at the same time... like I said before, home run.
  
I do have a question for you. I have about 200 miles on my car so far and averaging 24 mpg with mixed driving, mostly city. Is there a break in period after which I might see an mpg improvement? 24 mpg is certainly respectable for this type of vehicle, but I expected something closer to 26+ mpg.
Thanks again!
#42 of 97
Re: Love my 400h [lexus400h] by gagrice
Jun 27, 2005 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: lexus400h (Jun 27, 2005 8:41 am)

Welcome to the forum. A couple questions. How long were you on a wait list for the RX400h? What part of the country do you live in?
#43 of 97
Re: Love my 400h [lexus400h] by cyclone4
Jun 27, 2005 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: lexus400h (Jun 27, 2005 8:41 am)

Welcome aboard! Some people do strongly believe that after about 1500-2000 miles, the 400h will get better gas mileage. I am not sure if that is the case or not. I can tell you this much however. If you follow common sense rules of driving (coasting as much as possible to a stop, not gunning the accelerator, etc.), you will get terrific gas mileage in the city. You can even do better than the EPA estimate of 31 mpg. On one test drive of 27.5 miles in the city a few weeks ago I averaged exactly 40 mpg in pure city driving by following the speed limits and without the AC on. The environment is a big factor (especially on the highway) in determining what kind of gas mileage you will get. For example, wind speed and direction is a huge factor. AC or no AC, number of passangers and extra weight, type of terrain are a few others.
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Re: Love my 400h [lexus400h] by rx400_owner
Jun 27, 2005 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: lexus400h (Jun 27, 2005 8:41 am)

I recently found this page which shows the speed vs time profiles that the EPA uses for the "city" and "highway" driving tests.
 
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml
 
I was rather surprised by some aspects of the profiles especially the "highway" profile. I have always equated "highway" with "freeway." I had read that the EPA highway test was for a speed of 60 MPH wihch seemed reasonable given most freeways being somewhere between 55 and 65 MPH speed limit now. It turns out that the actual profile is more for something like what I would drive on a non-freeway country highway. It just touches a 60 MPH peak speed a couple of times and the average speed is surprisingly low: 48 MPH - much slower than one will usually be going on an uncongested freeway.
 
The city profile is less surprising, but it doesn't represent the driving I'm usually doing when not on a highway/freeway. It looks like pretty urban city driving rather than the typical California more suburban city driving. For some reason they have two pulses of high speed (56 MPH) - the first one I think is just to get the engine warmed up because it is a fairly short test, not sure why the second one is there. Then most of the test goes between stopped and 25-35 MPH. 40 -45 MPH would be more typical for the main surface streets around where I live. With 23 stops (about one every half mile), the average speed is 20 MPH.
 
The tests don't seem to represent typical driving. My freeway driving is typically much faster than the "highway" test. Non-freeway driving around here is generally somewhere between the city and highway tests - stops a bit less frequent than the city test and average speeds considerably higher.
 
Given the way the tests are done, it isn't surpising when our actual fuel mileage is different from the EPA numbers. Actually, when I look at the EPA test profiles it surprising to me that I get as close to the EPA numbers as I do. Freeway (~65 mph) I'm generally seeing around 27 MPG (or 26 when the AC is having to blast). Suburban surface streets, MPG varies more than on the freeway. Depending on AC load, traffic, speed, lights and hills plus how aggressively I'm driving, I see anything between 24 and 32 MPG. When conditions are just right, I've even seen high 30's. I've been getting 26 to 27 MPG over a tank which has included a fair amount of AC.
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Re: Love my 400h [lexus400h] by rx400_owner
Jun 27, 2005 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: lexus400h (Jun 27, 2005 8:41 am)

Did you reset the mileage meter when you got the car? When we got ours, it had a pretty low mileage on the meter left over from whatever the mechanic did when preping the car. That can easily pull down the mileage for 200 miles by a couple of MPG.
 
Other factors:
short trips. There is a mileage penalty for running with a cold engine in all cars, but the mileage meter makes it obvious. When I do a lot of short (<10 minutes of driving) errands, mileage gets pulled down - 24 MPG wouldn't be unusual. AC. In my driving seems to cost between 1 and 2 MPG when it has to run hard. In heavy traffic it could cost even more (not going many miles but the AC still runs).
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Re: Love my 400h [gagrice] by lexus400h
Jun 27, 2005 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 27, 2005 8:58 am)

I live in central NJ and I'm not aware of any dealership around here with a waiting list. I think there may have been some people waiting when the models first started to arrive, but I think those needs have all been met. I walked into my dealer on Monday afternoon and drove a 400h off the lot Wednesday evening. When I picked my car up there were five other 400h models available. Each weekend I see full page ads in the NY Times for other Lexus dealerships, most within 50 mile radius, that have 400h models available too, some with as many as 12 or more in their inventory. I can't speak for other parts of the country, but here in NJ the air waves and newspapers are full of special financing and leasing deals from the "other" car makers in an effort to clear the lots before their 2006 models start rolling in. With all that competition, selling a new model like the 400h, that for the most part you can't custom order, with an MSRP of $4989 can't be easy. All the 400h models I looked at had the typical options (Nav, sunroof, etc) plus heated seats, some even had the better radio. In my particular case, I was able to get my dealer to come up $1,000 on his original trade-in offer and drop $2,000 off MSRP for my 400h. If anyone out there wants a 400h now, consider coming to NJ!
#47 of 97
Re: Love my 400h [lexus400h] by gagrice
Jun 27, 2005 (3:51 pm)
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Replying to: lexus400h (Jun 27, 2005 1:45 pm)

Thank you, I hear the NJ shore is beautiful this time of year. Can you give the dealership name. No salesmen allowed. Maybe someone on here will get the deal they are looking for.

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