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#179 of 265 Re: Heated Seat not working [54brian]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 12, 2009 (8:10 am)
INOPERATIVE HEATED SEAT(S) - BUILT
2005-2007 Five Hundred, Freestyle
2008 Taurus X, Taurus
Some 2005-2007 Freestyle, Five Hundred, Montego and 2008 Taurus, Sable and Taurus X vehicles built before 12/14/2007 may exhibit an inoperative heated seat(s). This concern may be caused by an intermittent open element in the heated seat mat.
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
The heated seat system is controlled by the heated seat module located underneath the front passenger seat cushion. The heated seat switches are part of the heating ventilation air conditioning (HVAC) module but the heated seat system operates independently from the climate control system. The heated seat module regulates seat temperature by monitoring resistance of a thermistor type thermostat located in the cushion heater mat. The heated seat module is designed to remain on, heating the seat and maintaining temperature until switched off. For vehicles built before 5/1/2006, the module will time-out and switch off after 10 minutes.
1. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 501-10 for pin point test on inoperative heated seat(s).
a. When testing the heater mats resistance and circuits for an intermittent open, technicians should sit in the seat while testing the circuit resistance, move the seat in multiple seating positions and apply pressure to several areas of the heated seat mat to ensure the mat element is not open intermittently.
2. Refer to WSM 501-10 for heated seat element replacement when an open electrical circuit has been identified.
#180 of 265 Im up in the air!!!
Oct 22, 2009 (6:10 pm)
Im up in the air right now with my 05' limited. I love the car but now i have a bunch of maintenance things to take care of. like the cvt service that i cant get a straight answer from any dealership on how much its gonna cost, to fuel filter, i have a really loud creeking noise comming from the front end when i put the brakes on ect. or i actually found the exact same car with less than half of the miles than my car has. oh by the way i have 83323 miles on it. I could either use the 1000 bucks to put down on the other 500 limited with 40,000 miles and a warrantee. So any advise out there?
#181 of 265 Re: Im up in the air!!! [c2c35]
Oct 23, 2009 (4:26 am)
Are you trading in your car? if so what difference do they want? If the difference is reasonable I would go for it. The CVT is a problem. Lack of technician experience with this transmission is a concern.
#182 of 265 Re: Im up in the air!!! [bdyment]
Oct 23, 2009 (12:59 pm)
i decided against trading in the car, plus someone else jumped on it! i guess its time to shell out the 375.00 for the cvt service. I do have a very good mechanic at a ford dealership who i do trust. I'm also going to look into some things to possibly up the performance of my ltd. If anyone out there has any knowledge of performance parts for a 500 please let me know!
#183 of 265 2005 FiveHundred Sticking Trunk Lid Solution!
Dec 07, 2009 (6:43 pm)
I have had this car since Jan. 07 and really have not had too many issues with it and the ones i did have were typically fixed under warranty, the one remaining item was the problem with the trunk not releasing, it would take several clicks and a simultaneous pull to get it to open. I noticed on the 09 Taurus Ford had incorporated a new design on the trunk strike, it now has a spring activated finger that will push the latch/lid up when it is released. After several tries we finally got the right part in at the dealer, i picked it up today and installed it, it takes about a half hour to install/adjust and seems to work perfect, but will know for sure after the trunk has been closed for an extended period, the trunk now lifts about an inch when released. The parts costs about $16 and you will have to remove the rear interior trunk trim to install it, for those interested the part number i have in front of me is 6G1Z-5443252-A. You can also look at the new Fusion in the show room i believe they use the same style, so does the 09 Sable (not sure about the 10 Taurus), Good luck!!!
#184 of 265 Ford Five Hundred Limited 2007 Purchase Pending
Jan 12, 2010 (5:34 pm)
Is this a good idea? Gosh, after having reviewed the 18 or so pages on the forum, it sounds like it may not. My dad is considering one - and will meet with the existing owner tomorrow morning, and will then proceed to his mechanic to have the vehicle inspected.
The mileage is 38,000.00 and the private owner is asking $11,000.00.
Is this a good deal?
It seemed like most of the issues were with the 2005 model, and after having reviewed Consumer Reports Buying Guide 2010 - the overall repair history is average, with the brakes being below average. Many of the discussions centered on:
1. Rear Brakes - a nuisance - but repairable.
2. Gas Cap
3. Instrument Cluster - Mercury Montego - Mainly
4. Bucking - Gosh, in some instances it was serious enough for the dealer to recommend replacing the transmission.
5. Rear trunk latch - this was repairable.
6. Heated Seats
7. Driver's window.
Any thoughts about this from existing owners of 2007 models would be much appreciated.
#185 of 265 Re: Ford Five Hundred Limited 2007 Purchase Pending [computerguru]
Jan 13, 2010 (2:16 pm)
I have a 2006 Montego purchased used in late 2008 with 10k miles. I purchased the vehicle instead of a Toyota Avalon, which was 25-30% more higher in cost with more miles and fewer options. I like the car a lot, even though in hindsight I overpaid for it. I have put 24k miles on it in 18 months. The standard brake pad problem was taken care of under warranty, I have some slight bubbling on the lid on the dash compartment lid (unrecognizable to everyone except me). The trunk release problem resolved itself on its own. All of these issues are referenced by other owners in other posts.
I get lots of compliments on the car, but of course no one knows what it is. The rear seating and trunk compartment are huge. The car came loaded with every available option other than a moonroof and I plan to drive it til it isn't reliable transportation - hopefully to 150k miles or more. Sounds like purchasing one of these is like getting Forest Gump's box of chocolates. But I'm happy with mine. Good luck.
#186 of 265 Re: Heated Seat not working [andreej]
Jan 23, 2010 (2:46 pm)
I also have a '06 Five Hundred with the same issue. Were you able to repair the heated seat? If so, what was involved?
#187 of 265 Re: Ford Five Hundred Limited 2007 Purchase Pending [computerguru]
Jan 26, 2010 (5:28 pm)
I own a 2007 Limited Ford 500. I am at 18,000 miles and my warranty expired yesterday. Just yesterday I started hearing a grinding noise from the rear when applying my brakes. I called the dealership only to be told the warranty would not cover the brakes anyway. Never in my life and I have owned lots of cars have I had to replace brakes at 18,000 miles. I will not be buying another Ford - too bad because this is my 3rd Ford from this dealership. If they have a known problem with the brakes then why the heck don't they correct it???????????????? I wouldn't buy one.
#188 of 265 Re: Ford Five Hundred Limited 2007 Purchase Pending [phylissp]
Jan 26, 2010 (7:42 pm)
I thought Ford extended the warranty on the rear brakes. Do a search and I think you'll find plenty of discussion on the topic. You're not the only one. The Five Hundred has a real issue with pre-mature brake wear in the rears. I had the same problem. Took it to my mechanic (it was beyond even the extended warranty) and had the problem taken care of. I think they did pads (a good set of after-market pads) and turned the rotors. That was about 25,000 miles ago. The problem with premature wear should not recur. The problem with heavy brake dust build-up on the rear wheels is also eliminated. Unless noone is taking their cars back to your Ford dealer, he should be well aware of the problem with these cars. You can also Google "Ford Five Hundred rear brakes", and probably find the Tech Service Bulletins issued by Ford about the problem. Get the brakes fixed and I think you'll fall in love with the car again. I love mine. (2007 Limited)