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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [dwynne] by viet
May 31, 2005 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (May 31, 2005 10:27 am)

Hi NewHAHOwner:
 
"Last Friday I took another road trip and made my best mileage so far. 207 miles on 4.8 gallons for a pure highway mpg of 43.125".
 
SuperC
 
"I almost didn't believe my first 40+mpg reading, but in warmer weather, highway speeds around 60, no major climbs, I've found that 40+ is very doable. Still, I'm very happy with around 34-36 pretty regularly overall".
 
Lewis
 
I just washed my HAH an hour ago. The engine looked so marvelous and well organized under the light-weight aluminum hood. The alloy wheels looked bold and lasting. It took me an hour and a half to do "a quick wash" cleaning in and out. I have been "babysitting" my HAH for almost half a year without driving much on highway. I get about 29 - 30 MPG mixed driving at 60 - 70 MPH.
 
Viet
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [viet] by dwynne
Jun 01, 2005 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: viet (May 29, 2005 8:46 pm)

Lots of great tips - but if you followed most of those in the I4 Accord you could net close to the same economy for a LOT less money. No economy light to follow in the non-hybrid cars and the really big savings is the no run at long stops feature. But around here if you don't creep with the traffic you will never get to work since someone will get over or pull out in front of you if you just sit with your motor off. I rarely sit for LONG times stopped (where the hybrid would save me lots) but every day is lots of stop/start and lots of creeping.
 
Besides, who REALLY wants to drive that way.
 
I like your comment that you are in a hurry you mash and go Now THAT is my kind of driving...
 
If you want to putt around and max mile it, you certainly don't need an Accord hybrid to do that. In fact, you should be better off (and pay less) to get a Prius or an Insight. Now if you want to mash and go AND get decent mileage while doing it then the Accord Hybrid is just the ticket. If you want to putt some and mash and go when you want, then the Accord Hybrid is a pretty good choice for that too.
 
Dennis
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [backy] by dhanley
Jun 01, 2005 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 29, 2005 2:53 pm)

"In other words, you are upset about owning a V6 mid-sized sedan with 255 hp that can go 0-60 in 6.5 seconds and gets the fuel economy of a 4-cylinder compact car"
 
Actually, i'd be upset too. My 8 year old 3-series will go 0-60 in 6.5 and get the fuel economy he's reporting. My city/highwy mix usually nets me 24-25MPG.
 
dave
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [dhanley] by backy
Jun 01, 2005 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: dhanley (Jun 01, 2005 8:06 am)

And the '97 3-Series is a compact car with a much smaller (in hp) 6-cylinder engine than what's on the mid-sized HAH, correct?
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [backy] by dhanley
Jun 01, 2005 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 01, 2005 2:24 pm)

Yes, and it gets to 60 as fast, and the new 3 has a better EPA rating, more HP, etc.
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [dhanley] by backy
Jun 01, 2005 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: dhanley (Jun 01, 2005 3:28 pm)

Yes, the new 330i has the same power as the HAH that costs a minimum of $7000 less, and the EPA ratings are 20/28 for the 330i vs. 29/37 for the HAH (both with automatics). Fuel economy for the 330i as tested by Autoweb: 20.2 mpg.
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [dhanley] by viet
Jun 01, 2005 (3:51 pm)
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Replying to: dhanley (Jun 01, 2005 8:06 am)

I got the ECO light ON even at 35MPH and up on flat roads in cities and at 45MPH and up on 35 - 45% hilly roads. On highway when slowing down at 15MPH I still get ECO light on. In short, I get ECO light on more often. That's Honda's frugality philosophy and I love it. Any car maker can build cars but thrifty fuel consumption and ultra low emission is greatest achievement by Honda.
 
I get very satisfying and relaxed experience to drive my HAH when my CD system is playing my favorite CDs. That is Heaven to me to enjoy myself and forget for a while about work, nagging people and some other challenges in life.
  
Honda Inc. recently solicited my opinions on their new Hybrid design, style, pricing, etc. Honda knows for sure I am going to buy another Honda Hybrid soon to enrich my line of Accords. That was probably the reason they asked me so many complex questions for their next hybrid design. I am willing to pay big bucks to buy good products with great values. You have every rights to trust me Honda Inc.'s CEO, CFO, CIO, Vice President in charge of Manufacturing, etc. Long live Honda Inc., King of Car Makers.
 
I may be inferior to Dennis, Backy, Excel and many other guys in this forum in automotive technology because I do not have much time left to take college course in automotive engineering. But I am sure am a very good driver and a great buyer with my sufficient research, references and experience before I make my decision to buy a new car or to "resurrect my favorite cars" with minimum cost. In fact, my knowledge about cars is OK to me not to make stupid mistakes by buying lemons (nice flashy biggy metal boxes which cover inferior engines).
 
Honda Accord hybrid is really one of a kind. My wife "complained" to my in-law that my HAH was expensive as a baby Mercedes. It is so true. But, the technology, HP, features and etc. are much more valuable than those in the baby Mercedes that my nephew just bought one. It has less than 200 HP, less airbags.... As a single young guy he may need that Mercedes to flirt around to win some girl friends. I dont and I paid more serious consideration to technicalities, feature, comfort, durability, reliability, pricing, track records, etc.
 
I have been very happy with my HAH and will be willing to create another good justified reason to buy another one as soon as I should. Seems like I have been working only to buy Honda. I enjoy very much my "reborn 95 Accord EX, new engine/ transmission" as same as I am crazy with my HAH 05.
 
Following is the testimony from another happy HAH owner who got a very good MPG:
 
"I drive the NYS thruway about 70 miles to work each day at exactly 65MPH.
Lately I've been getting 40.+ each way. Even when bucking a head wind, I can
still get 38.+mpg.:shade: Up hills I just tap the cruise control down 1 tap at a time to keep the eco lite on and then return to speed when I'm over the top. Best trip so far....42.6 mpg...with a tail wind".
 
Hans
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [viet] by gagrice
Jun 01, 2005 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: viet (Jun 01, 2005 3:51 pm)

I may be inferior to Dennis, Backy, Excel and many other guys
 
No one here is inferior. All opinions are appreciated at least by most of us. When you talked to Honda did you tell them the dealers were adding to the MSRP? Maybe you can get a your 2nd HAH at invoice price. That would be a good deal. Keep us posted on your mileage and driving experiences.
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [gagrice] by backy
Jun 01, 2005 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 01, 2005 4:15 pm)

It's not like everybody (me included) has an automotive engineering degree. It's mostly experienced-based, like viet.
 
Actually, based on reports here and elsewhere it appears the HAH can be had for below invoice in at least some parts of the country. Viet, they should give you a big discount for all the Hondas you help to sell with your unwavering support.
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Re: Not so great gas milage on Accord Hybrid [backy] by dwynne
Jun 02, 2005 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 01, 2005 5:00 pm)

It's not like everybody (me included) has an automotive engineering degree. It's mostly experienced-based, like viet.
 
This is true, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. I think the Accord hybrid is a nice car for the right person. I think the problem is that some of the "wrong" folks are getting it - they don't know what to expect (much worse than EPA mileage, for example) if they drive it like they normally would drive. Prius has the same "problem" - folks buy then and drive like normal and get Tercel like numbers but paid a premium price.
 
Hey, I used to have a 330i so I can comment on that as well. A nice car, very expensive, runs great for a (then) 225hp car, with sports pack stops and handles much better than any Accord. I think I got around 20-21mpg commuting to work. Available with a manual transmission. No real comparison design or price-wise with an Accord - other than it was as quick/quicker and would not be a lot worse on mileage than some Accords (if driven in a spirited manner) - but requires premium gas. Using premium means an effective reduction of up to 10% in the MPG (based on how much extra premium costs and the current price of regular). If you offered me a new 330i or a new Accord hybrid for the same price (what I could get the hybrid for now) I would take the 330i and the heck with the fuel economy. The the price difference for a 330i with leather, sports, luxury, NAV, etc is a TON more money there is not much other reason to compare them.
 
Hopefully the car will be available for discounts everywhere soon - and Honda will put the moonroof and spare in it for 2006.
 
Dennis

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