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Replying to: scottm123 (Jul 11, 2007 4:34 am) BTW, I don't think the TSX really compares to the G35 anymore. The G35 has moved significantly upmarket (and in my opinion, lost it's appeal).
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jul 11, 2007 5:30 am) Absolutely. This entire thread is absurd. We're comparing two completely different cars. The TSX only has one thing going for it in comparison... price. And those who choose it for that reason are the types that would never look at the G or likewise to begin with.
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Replying to: scottm123 (Jul 11, 2007 5:34 am) The G35 is a barge by comparison - a very fast barge, but a barge.
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But the comparo here is on the subject vehicles. Anyone is free to start a different comparo at anytime. If/when everyone agrees that there is no comparison between the TSX and G35 anymore (if there ever was) and QUITS POSTING here, the topic will die a natural death and we'll schedule the funeral.
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Replying to: pat (Jul 11, 2007 6:18 am) The G35 is a barge by comparison - a very fast barge, but a barge now thats absurd. Fedlawman has never stepped on the gas of a G35..responsive.. hello -306hp -tsx yes the shifter is great -but your driving a front wheel drive car-responsive? step on the gas on the G and you'll get enough feedback to send you to jail quick.(lawman).have you seen the reviews for this car?? I'm happy your happy with your TSX its a great car but its not a G --even the Host is laughing
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Replying to: sweendogy (Jul 11, 2007 5:03 pm) I don't own a TSX or a G35, but have driven both extensively. I am also past puberty and believe the term "responsive" means more than stepping on the go pedal when the light turns green. For your info, here's what I wrote after my first test drive of a 2007 G35 6-speed Sport last December (well before any of these discussions began): "It's power feels soft. The clutch take up is sudden, making smooth shifts next to impossible. This difficulty was compounded by the most glaring fault - throttle response. I'm sure it's the drive-by-wire software, but it had a very detached feel to it, and revs hung so high and long that when you try to heel&toe, the revs actually leap up a few hundred RPM before they slowly start to decay. It was the most unnatural, awkward, and difficult to shift car I've driven in a long time. It's a car that you don't settle into and immediately feel comfortable driving." fedlawman, "Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans" #7262, 26 Dec 2006 11:01 am I admit the TSX would benefit from having some more ponies under the hood, but I love that the TSX begs to be driven. The controls all feel natural and effortless - you settle in immediately and everything just works and feels as it should. It's simply a car that loves to rev and shift and turn, and it puts a smile on your face every time. I'm glad you enjoy the G35 - it's an impressive car for the money. I'm actually impressed with how sporty the G35 turned out to be considering how big and heavy it is (heavier and longer wheelbase than a Buick LaCrosse!). Maybe Infiniti and Buick should join forces and finally beat BMW in the luxury sport sedan market
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jul 11, 2007 8:45 pm)
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Replying to: johninnj (Jul 12, 2007 7:03 am) Yup. "TSX is overpriced..." Yes, I agree that time has marched on since 2003 and the TSX no longer offers the value it once did. The entry-lux segment has moved upmarket in power, price, and size/weight and left the aging TSX to occupy a new, smaller niche. I think the TSX now compares more closely with cars like the VW Jetta/Passat/Audi A3/A4, Subaru Legacy, and Lexus IS250. "...and doesn't really know what it is." The TSX is a non-sentient machine. It doesn't know anything. I know that it is still one of the most approachable and entertaining sedans on the road. Is the G35 worth $3,000 more? That depends on what you value in a car - HP or chassis/driveline precision.
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jul 12, 2007 10:54 am)
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Replying to: johninnj (Jul 12, 2007 12:45 pm) You're entitled to your opinion. We all place different value in straight-line acceleration. You want sub-6 sec 0-60, and that's fine. Me? I place a high value on driveline precision. As an S2000 owner, you can surely appreciate the joy of driving a car that lets the driver become "one with the machine" instead of merely manipulating the controls and going along for the ride. You have also experienced what it's like to have an almost telepathic dialogue with a car and have it respond to your inputs perfectly. Finally, you know what it is like to push a car to it's limits, and at all times know exactly what each tire is doing as they communicate to you through your hands, feet, ears, and seat of the pants - and to ride that razors edge knowing you're in complete control. I don't believe the G35 is this type of car. Of course the TSX has it's weaknesses being the luxury/family based car that it is (turning radius, all-season tires, FWD, etc.), but it does posses many of these sports car qualities. It's tossable, communicative, and has intuitive/fluid controls (like your S2000). It's limits are accessible without being scary, and it's fun exploring and playing with those limits. The G35 6-speed I drove, while a fast, grippy, and capable sport sedan, had none of these more elusive qualities. So while the TSX is no S2000, it's a lot closer to the mark than the G35 - and if you measure your car to the S2000 benchmark, the numb steering, jerky shifting G35 can only come up wanting. One point I'll concede is that all of my opinions are based on the 6-speed manual versions of these cars. As I have stated in the past, I think the TSX with auto transmission is a dud - the slushbox literally saps all the fun out of the car. And although I've never driven a G35 with auto transmission, I truly believe that a slushbox would wipe away the negative traits that I found so distracting (clutch take-up, throttle response, rev matching issues, etc.). I can't recommend the TSX with an auto transmission, nor can I recommend the G35 with a stick shift. My recommendation to you is to keep the S2000. If I didn't need a backseat in my weekend runabout, I'd be driving one too.
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