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Sedans Acura TSX Acura TSX vs. Infiniti G35
194 messages, Last post on Jul 24, 2009 at 7:54 AM
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Jun 22, 2009 7:06 am) I didn't get any Hondas in the past b/c I don't like their designs at all. However, the current generation of Hondas are not bad. I might try the Accord to replace the Altima in the near future. |
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Jun 21, 2009 4:07 pm) "However, you're the person who brought up the lack features on the G. You try to add the premium package to the G to make it equal to the base TSX." 360w 7-speaker AM/FM/CD/MP3 audio with RDS, XM satellite radio, and iPod integration. Heated leather seats with 2 driver memory. Manual tilt & telescoping wheel. http://www.edmunds.com/new/2010/acura/tsx/101174005/standard.html
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 22, 2009 9:16 am)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Jun 22, 2009 9:36 am) I still think the 4 cyl TSX with 6-speed MT is the better car (and it's only $29,000). |
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Replying to: sjaieve (Nov 18, 2008 8:02 pm) Resignation accepted. 
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 22, 2009 11:19 am) And just to add to the accolades of the Infiniti G series, JD Powers just released this today, highest ranked initial quality survey. Its an honor to stand next to a Lexus when it comes to quality cos those guys are merciless in that dept. The TSX is so out of its league with the G its not even funny. Believe me, I will be having fun with this thread.  Entry premium car: -Highest ranked: Lexus IS -Runners-up: Cadillac CTS, Infiniti G-Series |
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Replying to: sjaieve (Jun 22, 2009 11:53 am) The question is - why is it so hard to understand that the TSX is also a terrific car? |
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 22, 2009 11:58 am) Yes the TSX is a great car, and yes the G is not the greatest car in the segment at least from a performance perspective, but once you factor everything in, even here at Edmunds they placed it 1st over the 335i, IS350, CTS, C350. Try pitting a TSX against these cars, see what happens.
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Replying to: sjaieve (Jun 22, 2009 1:26 pm) The CTS in that article was down-graded because of its relatively slow performance (0-60 in mid 6's), which, incidently, is around the same performance as the TSX V6. |
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Replying to: sjaieve (Jun 22, 2009 1:26 pm) From a personal perspective, I have driven both the G35 and G37 sedan and here are some of my thoughts: 1. The G35/37 has a powerful drivetrain - no doubt about it. But to my surprise, the G doesn't pull like a freight train like I expected. Torque still feels a little soft at lower RPM's. The BMW twin turbo is far superior in power delivery. The G does a nice job of hiding it's size and weight (it's a big, heavy car), but it definitely isn't as nimble as the smaller TSX. 2. Clutch take-up was too high and sudden which made moving from a stand-still unnecessarily difficult (especially on uphill inclines). Combine the poor clutch with an overly sensitive throttle tip-in (thanks to drive-by-wire), and the G was even difficult to upshift during normal driving. Pedal placement was also not the best for heel-and-toe downshifting, which is moot in the G because the aforementioned clutch/throttle issues made me loath to try it more than a couple of times. I did like the shifter action - short and precise throws with just the right heft. It was more precise and better feeling than the BMW 3-series, but not as slick as the TSX. 3. Interior ergonomics. Sorry, I hate the G37 cockpit. This one is much better than the 1st gen G35, but Infiniti is still behind Lexus, Audi, and Acura in designing a cockpit that's intimate, attractive, and functional. I know this is a personal call and everyone has a different opinion here, but to me, the layout and appearance of that recessed center display area is less organic and distracting - it ruins the otherwise smooth lines of the dashboard. The Infiniti's switchgear is also somewhat lacking in quality feel and precision of action as compared to other cars in this class. This is an area where Honda/Acura shines. Overall, the TSX cabin is light and airy, everything falls perfectly into place, and all the controls have a feel of quality and precision. 4. Exterior looks. I like the looks of the G37 from some angles, but I think it's a little on the boring. I'm afraid it will look dated very quickly like the 1st generation G35 does. 5. Chassis / driveline refinement is another area where the G37 has improved significantly since the first generation G35, but I think they tipped the pendulum a little too far the other way. Where the old car was noisy and harsh, but had razor sharp reflexes, the new car is a little soft and numb. It does have a good ride now however. BMW also went too soft and heavy with the current generation 3 series - as did Acura. I can only imagine what a soft, understeering pig the TSX will be with a big V6 over the front axle. The old 4cylinder TSX was very light on it's humble little feet with quick turn-in and great chassis response - I really liked the 1st generation TSX. Anyway, there you have it - my personal, completely biased opinion of these cars. Personally, I wouldn't choose either one. The G37 isn't fast enough to be thrilling, and it isn't luxurious enough to be coddling - kind of a Jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none if you ask me. For around $35,000, I'd rather own a Genesis on the luxury side or an Evo X on the sport side.
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