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194 messages, Last post on Jul 24, 2009 at 7:54 AM
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Refer to post 127 on this thread, I dont think anything has changed even with the additional horses. Acura's new engine with 250+ horses, not even sure how much exactly, takes the new TSX to 60 in less time than a the Rav 4 V6. Look  the 305hp TL, slowest car with 300+ horses. The point I am trying to make is not about 0-60 times, but about delivery. Where are all the horses ending up with such uninspiring 0-60 times. The word that comes to mind is wastage, somewhere along the line there is some serious losses being made, something I cannot stand. No one makes more powerful 3.5l engines like Toyota (IS350) and Nissan (VQ engines and the CVT engines in the Maxima and Altima). I would have to add Honda (Honda Accord Coupe V6), but exlude Acura as under that name plate, they have certainly managed to mess up the good stuff available from the parent company. The Accord Coupe V6 is a sexy beast IMHO. Handling: Dont even need to go there, another phrase that comes to mind is Torque Steer. There seems to be a lot of talk about bluetooth, moonroof etc, bear in mind that the average buyer of a G spends 36k (MSRP) on this car. This is enough to get the premium package at least. Also note that the G can never be priced like the TSX, the guys at Nissan would be absolutetly NUTS to go that route. These are serious perfomance cars we are talking about, if you want the VQ engine you need at least 29k (the 350Z) and at that price you are getting the base model. You will notice that even an Evo starts at 32k (base), that is just the way cars in the G's league are priced, save for the Genesis Coupe. There is always an exception to the rule  As I noted in post 127, unless you are truly trying to be myopic and not willing to look at big picture, you will also realize that the G drivers are those guys who looked at the 335i (lucky bastards driving those cars:)) but realized that the car is expensive yet the G is very close in performance to this car. So rather than spend 52k, on a fully loaded 335i. you can save +10k on the G. Many G drivers, I included do not even consider FWD cars. And before someone rants about interior room, bells and whistles, refinement, residual value, reliability I would seriously consider picking up a copy of Consumer Report and see who is placed 1st in the ELLPS category. Consumer report is hardly a performance oriented magazine, but looks more at ownership experience. Do you know which car has a 95% approval rating from its owners. I am sorry, this is not the right car to pick for a comparison. Have you considered the Maxima, Altima v6, Honda Accord v6, Hyundai Genesis V6 (at least its a RWD), Evo, 328i, A4 2l 4 banger, Camry v6. I think before you can even start dreaming of taking on the G, you should seriously consider these worthy contenders for the TSX. I probably would pick the 328i or the Honda Accord before I can start thinking of the TSX |
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Jun 22, 2009 7:06 am) I didn't get any Hondas in the past b/c I don't like their designs at all. However, the current generation of Hondas are not bad. I might try the Accord to replace the Altima in the near future. |
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Jun 21, 2009 4:07 pm) "However, you're the person who brought up the lack features on the G. You try to add the premium package to the G to make it equal to the base TSX." 360w 7-speaker AM/FM/CD/MP3 audio with RDS, XM satellite radio, and iPod integration. Heated leather seats with 2 driver memory. Manual tilt & telescoping wheel. http://www.edmunds.com/new/2010/acura/tsx/101174005/standard.html
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 22, 2009 9:16 am)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Jun 22, 2009 9:36 am) I still think the 4 cyl TSX with 6-speed MT is the better car (and it's only $29,000). |
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Replying to: sjaieve (Nov 18, 2008 8:02 pm) Resignation accepted. 
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 22, 2009 11:19 am) And just to add to the accolades of the Infiniti G series, JD Powers just released this today, highest ranked initial quality survey. Its an honor to stand next to a Lexus when it comes to quality cos those guys are merciless in that dept. The TSX is so out of its league with the G its not even funny. Believe me, I will be having fun with this thread.  Entry premium car: -Highest ranked: Lexus IS -Runners-up: Cadillac CTS, Infiniti G-Series |
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Replying to: sjaieve (Jun 22, 2009 11:53 am) The question is - why is it so hard to understand that the TSX is also a terrific car? |
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 22, 2009 11:58 am) Yes the TSX is a great car, and yes the G is not the greatest car in the segment at least from a performance perspective, but once you factor everything in, even here at Edmunds they placed it 1st over the 335i, IS350, CTS, C350. Try pitting a TSX against these cars, see what happens.
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Replying to: sjaieve (Jun 22, 2009 1:26 pm) The CTS in that article was down-graded because of its relatively slow performance (0-60 in mid 6's), which, incidently, is around the same performance as the TSX V6. |
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