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#6818 of 6844 Re: The Other Way Around. NO! [donna388] by lightfootfl Nov 24, 2008 (7:56 am)
Replying to: donna388 (Nov 20, 2008 6:57 pm) Sorry to be behind the power curve here, but who or what is "Fred's" ? Thanks, van Replies to this message: donna388 (Nov 24, 2008 9:15 am) lightfootfl (Nov 25, 2008 8:36 am)
#6819 of 6844 Re: The Other Way Around. NO! [lightfootfl] by donna388 Nov 24, 2008 (9:15 am)
Replying to: lightfootfl (Nov 24, 2008 7:56 am)   No need to feel sorry Dave. What year was your VW Diesel?   So a search for Fred's TDI or go to: www.tdiclub.com That will get you to a group of VW enthusiasts bar none. As a group, we know the VW diesel better than the dealers, I kid you not!   I am always surprised how many VW diesel owners have never heard of this group. With over 64,497members World Wide of which over 18,000 are considered active, it has been around for over 10 years and is continually growing.   Fred is a fellow who started that group many years ago when he didn't own a diesel and this group simply grew and grew. Whatever you need to know, the members there know the car. Replies to this message: lightfootfl (Nov 25, 2008 8:36 am)
#6820 of 6844 Hyundai does not want to hear from you. by carolinabob Nov 24, 2008 (9:53 am)
Last year, I wrote to Lexus and told them why I did not purchase one of their cars. Within 2-3 weeks, they called me and we had a nice chat about what I would like to see on their cars. They also sent me brochures on the LS and GS models.    I have also communicated with other manufacturers and been cordially treated.        But, NOT Hyundai!    08/26 sent a letter to CEO with what I would like to see on the Genesis. Most suggestions were things on the Azera, but not on the Genesis and moving some features from the 4.6 to another package on the 3.8.    09/05 letter stamped received in President's office.    10/02 letter stamped received in Consumer Affairs Dept.    11/21 letter stamped received in Legal Dept.    11/21 letter returned to me with a cover letter from assistant general counsel.          Their letter states: "As a matter of course, all correspondence received by HMA containing suggestions for design changes, new products, marketing strategies, advertising slogans or the like, is forwarded to the Legal Department for reply. Please be advised that it is against the policy of HMA to accept unsolicited ideas from persons outside the Hyundai organization. In accordance with this policy, we are returning your correspondence with this letter. Please consider this letter as HMA's response to your August 26, 2008 correspondence."          This is why Hyundai will not suceed as a luxury car manufacturer and will ultimately have problems becoming a major factor in the American market. Replies to this message: ronsmith38 (Nov 24, 2008 12:15 pm) joe97 (Nov 25, 2008 9:25 am) joe97 (Nov 25, 2008 10:35 am) sripton (Jan 02, 2009 9:21 am)
#6821 of 6844 Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from you. [carolinabob] by ronsmith38 Nov 24, 2008 (12:15 pm)
Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 24, 2008 9:53 am) With most companies "litigation jumpy", I can understand why HMA responded as they did. A better way is to post your suggestions and concerns in a forum like this one. Hopefully they monitor these forums. If they don't then you last statement in the above post is most certainly true.
#6822 of 6844 Re: The Other Way Around. NO! [donna388] by lightfootfl Nov 25, 2008 (8:36 am)
Replying to: donna388 (Nov 24, 2008 9:15 am) Thanks, I had never heard of it..(Fred's). I started with the VW Deisel with air conditioning, in '79.. I purchased it in St Louis, Mo and a couple of months later had to replace it with another, as I had the 1st one was totalled out by a tractor trailer accident. That one lasted me over 100K miles without any problems at all. Then I did a 100K servicing, and had problems from then til I got rid of it about 25,000 mi later. Over all I loved it, especially the mileage I had, for the entire life of the vehicle as I owned it, was in the upper 40's if I remember right. I did much better the 1st 100K mi, that servicing killed everything. At the time I owned it, I was moving from Ill, to FL, to AL, to AR, back to FL., where I finally sold it in 1985. Again thanks for the answer, van
#6823 of 6844 Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from you. [carolinabob] by joe97 Nov 25, 2008 (9:25 am)
Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 24, 2008 9:53 am) And what does it have to do with mainstream large sedans comparo? You've already posted the exact same thing in a few other threads, are you now infecting every thread because Hyundai didn't respond to what you wanted to hear?
#6824 of 6844 Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from you. [carolinabob] by joe97 Nov 25, 2008 (10:35 am)
Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 24, 2008 9:53 am) "As a matter of course, all correspondence received by HMA containing suggestions for design changes, new products, marketing strategies, advertising slogans or the like, is forwarded to the Legal Department for reply. Please be advised that it is against the policy of HMA to accept unsolicited ideas from persons outside the Hyundai organization. In accordance with this policy, we are returning your correspondence with this letter. Please consider this letter as HMA's response to your August 26, 2008 correspondence."   Exactly what other automakers would have replied here as well. Your Lexus situation was about a purchase decision; it's different here, as it was concerning about future products. So while you didn't get what you wanted to hear, it was the right thing Hyundai did. Companies do this on a regular basis.
#6825 of 6844 2010 Taurus Interior by thegraduate Dec 24, 2008 (1:14 am)
More on Jalopnik, at the link below.   click here for the Taurus pics Replies to this message: tonycd (Dec 25, 2008 2:33 pm) hansienna (Dec 25, 2008 10:33 pm)
#6826 of 6844 Re: 2010 Taurus Interior [thegraduate] by tonycd Dec 25, 2008 (2:33 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 24, 2008 1:14 am) Overall very nice, and a huge improvement over the cheapo Nebraska-flat plains of the current Taurus.   The only problem I see here is the chrome surfaces around the gauge pods -- they'd be a guaranteed source of annoying reflections on a sunny day. Replies to this message: hansienna (Dec 25, 2008 10:33 pm)
#6827 of 6844 Re: 2010 Taurus Interior [tonycd] by hansienna Dec 25, 2008 (10:33 pm)
Replying to: tonycd (Dec 25, 2008 2:33 pm) Atrractive but BIG design flaws similar to the 2006 - 2009 Toyota Sienna's where there are too many shiny, curved surfaces that cause annoying reflections.

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