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Re: Other Way Around. [thegraduate] by aviboy97
Nov 17, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 17, 2008 10:14 am)

I've heard great things about Nissan's CVT. The Aisin unit in the Mazda6 has a very sharp and precise shift which stays in its power band as well. No shift shock or power lag.
 
By the way, the Maxima is actually 3 inches shorter in length than the Mazda, which has grown quite large
 
Their current Maxima feels like a boat. It's their 3rd Maxima, and they were not a big fan of how big it got, but, purchased it over the Altima at the time, because they felt the Altima was relatively cheap in comparison. I noticed the size change after I posted. The 6 has more interior room too. Should the Max really be considered a mid-sized sedan?? I think so.
 
It looks like the price will be closer then I anticipated. I can get them a Mazda6 s GT with Nav / moon roof / Bose / Sirius radio for around $29,300. I've gotten quotes on the Maxima SV with tech, Xenons, and Bluetooth for around $32,500. That's nearly $4,000 off MSRP. Plus Mazda has 0% for 36 months, and I don't think Nissan has anything for the 09 Maxima.
  
I guess it's going to come down to what car they like more. They have yet to test drive either. I'm curious to see which they will like more.
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Re: Other Way Around. [aviboy97] by thegraduate
Nov 17, 2008 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 17, 2008 10:40 am)

The 6 has more interior room too.
 
Any numbers on the interior volume? I'm curious, since it has grown so much. I know the Accord (non-moonroof) is 106 cu. ft. and with its 14 cu. ft. trunk, equals the 120 cu. ft. that it takes to get into the "Full Size" car territory. I was just curious how close the 6 comes to this.
 
I can't find numbers on the Maxima either.
 
Thanks,
 
TheGrad
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Re: Other Way Around. [thegraduate] by tenpin288
Nov 17, 2008 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 17, 2008 10:45 am)

From www.fueleconomy.gov
 
Passenger Volume

96 ft3 (4D) 09 Maxima

102 ft3 (4D) 09 Mazda 6

Luggage Volume

14 ft3 (4D) 09 Maxima

17 ft3 (4D) 09 Mazda 6
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Re: Other Way Around. [thegraduate] by aviboy97
Nov 17, 2008 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 17, 2008 10:45 am)

Maxima Mazda6
 
Front Headroom (in.) 38.50 39.40
Rear Headroom (in.) 36.40 37.30
Front Legroom (in.) 43.80 42.50
Rear Legroom (in.) 34.60 38.00
Front Shoulder Room (in.) 56.30 57.30
Rear Shoulder Room (in.) 55.10 56.50
Front Hip Room (in.) 53.40 55.10
Rear Hip Room (in.) 53.90 55.90
 
After spending a lot of time in both the Mazda6, and their current 2004 Maxima, the Mazda6 feels smaller.The Mazda6 has a driver focused cockpit and every control can be reached with relative ease. I'm wondering how the 09 Max is in comparison.
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Re: Other Way Around. [tenpin288] by aviboy97
Nov 17, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Nov 17, 2008 10:54 am)

The truck in the Mazda6 is 16.5cu ft, not 17.3.
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Re: Other Way Around. [thegraduate] by donna388
Nov 17, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 17, 2008 10:14 am)

"That horespower will matter when merging or passing. Torque is what gets you going from a start."
 
Not necessarily. And not unless you really rev it up.The only way you will get the Maximas greater maximum horsepower is to wind it up to much higher than necessary revs.
 
Sure, the Nissan may have a sight edge in a drag race, but most people do not rev their motors to their maximum revs in normal everyday driving.
In normal everyday daily driving, extra torque is the better way to go.
I will take a modern 3.7L with more torque to a warmed over higher HP 3.5L engine anytime.
Torque is what pulls you along in normal everyday driving, when doing normal driving, grade climbing, leaving normally from a dead stop, etc.
 
Many do not like the CVT and prefer feeling the gear changes, and from what I have read, Mazdas six speeds do get the job done. I drove that CVT tranny for two days in a rental and it does take some getting used to.
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Re: Other Way Around. [donna388] by tjc78
Nov 17, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: donna388 (Nov 17, 2008 11:11 am)

will take a modern 3.7L with more torque to a warmed over higher HP 3.5L engine anytime.
 
The 3.5 in the Max (VQ) is one of the best V6s ever.... the 3.7 in the Mazda has a long way to go to even be in the same league IMO.
 
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Re: Other Way Around. [aviboy97] by tjc78
Nov 17, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 17, 2008 11:02 am)

 I sat in the '09 Max and felt it to be too small to my tastes. Much smaller (esp in the rear) than the outgoing model. However, the quality of the interior is fantastic.
 
One of the reviews I read on the '09 Max is Nissan still has some torque steer problems. Automobile mag actually just did a comparo on the Max vs 6 vs Passat cc. I didn't get a chance to read it, though
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Re: Other Way Around. [donna388] by aviboy97
Nov 17, 2008 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: donna388 (Nov 17, 2008 11:11 am)

Edmunds.com have similar performance times for both vehicles. 6.5 sec to 60mph and 14.7 sec in the 1/4 mile. Both cars weigh about the same too, little over 3,500 lbs.
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Re: Other Way Around. [tjc78] by aviboy97
Nov 17, 2008 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 17, 2008 11:28 am)

I should check out that article. Thanks for your opinion!

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