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Re: Impala-My impressions [thegraduate] by ronsmith38
Nov 07, 2008 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 06, 2008 7:55 pm)

I have a 2008 Sable, and also find the drivers legroom ample. It has power adjustable pedals, and by adjusting them and the seat, the need for a telescoping steering wheel is diminished. Since my wife is shorter than I am, the memory settings come in handy.
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Re: Impala-My impressions [tjc78] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 07, 2008 4:31 am)

I think it has everything to do with how and individual sets the seat up. I'm 6'2" tall and when I tested the Genesis, I had no issues with leg room at all. Even with the seat in the position I needed, it left ample room for the back seat as well.
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Re: Impala-My impressions [allmet33] by thegraduate
Nov 07, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2008 6:43 am)

Well sure, its different person-to-person. I was just surprised because as a 6'5" guy, I'm used to having legroom issues EVERYWHERE but never having headroom problems. Heck, I have an Accord Sedan with a moonroof and can adjust my power seat almost all the way up with no problems. All my height is in my legs, and the Taurus felt plenty roomy up front.
 
Don't get me wrong though, you guys know I'm not so hard-headed as to believe where I'm comfortable, others may not be!
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Re: Avalon as "least expensive" [ronsmith38] by tonycd
Nov 07, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: ronsmith38 (Jun 24, 2008 10:16 am)

"I predict that gas will hit $3 before $8! Once the speculation factor goes away."
 
You said it way back in June. Helluva good call, Ron.
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Re: Impala-My impressions [thegraduate] by allmet33
Nov 07, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 07, 2008 7:42 am)

I feel you, but at 6'2"...I've NEVER had leg room issues in the driver's seat of any car I've driven (and it's been quite a few). If anything, the only leg room problem has ever been those that ride behind me.
 
I also think some of it has to do with perception. If the driver's cockpit seems cramped, then you will feel cramped no matter what. Some automakers do a good job of making the driver's area seem spacious. In today's world with adjustable pedals, tilt and telescoping steering wheels...I don't understand how leg room can be an issue. Not unless someone just has abnormally long legs.
 
You are right on one thing...your driving position may not be comfortable to someone else and vice-a-versa.
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Re: Impala-My impressions [allmet33] by thegraduate
Nov 07, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 07, 2008 10:00 am)

Some automakers do a good job of making the driver's area seem spacious. In today's world with adjustable pedals, tilt and telescoping steering wheels...I don't understand how leg room can be an issue. Not unless someone just has abnormally long legs.
 
Well, if you have a car that doesn't have those features, it CAN be. Even if it does, sometimes, automakers just don't put in a lot of front-seat travel (such as the Honda Fit, just not enough legroom for me up front).
 
I drive a 1996 Accord about every-other day. It's a little lacking in actual legroom, but the whole interior is so open (low dashboard, cowl, lots of glass), the car doesn't feel cramped to me at all. It happens to have excellent steering wheel placement for me; it doesn't telescope, but it is a good distance away... unlike our old Odyssey, or vehicles like the old Corolla model, which was the biggest pain in the arms to drive.
 
By the way, with an inseam that is very nearly 35", I'd probably qualify for those "abnormally long legs" comments!
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Re: Impala-My impressions [berri] by badgerfan
Nov 07, 2008 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Nov 06, 2008 5:40 pm)

Well my 2000 Taurus has been and continues to be an excellent car both from performance and reliability standpoints. I plan on keeping it for at least 3 or 4 more years. Not that interested in the current Taurus as I don't need that big a car. A Fusion would be just fine, or I might even go down to a compact next time.
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Re: Impala-My impressions [badgerfan] by thegraduate
Nov 08, 2008 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: badgerfan (Nov 07, 2008 3:15 pm)

My parents almost went with the Fusion over the summer, as my mom is always looking to save some money where possible, but the salesman pointed out that there was more "bargaining" room on the Taurus, and equipped similarly, the Fusion wouldn't be any cheaper. The fact that the Taurus was more powerful and had better fuel economy sealed the deal.
 
That said, the new Fusion is due out soon, and should offer improved power & economy.
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Re: Why purchase a Kia Amanti [jaymagic] by lmandrews
Nov 13, 2008 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 29, 2007 7:29 am)

In your post #3518 dated 10/29/07 you mentioned a memory seat problem with your Amanti. I would be very interested in what your problem was. I am having a problem programming the seat using only the controls on the door. Everything worked as described in the manual from 4/08 until about a week ago (11/3/08) when it suddenly would not hold the program. KIA is trying to convince me that the instructions in the manual are wrong and that the seat must be programmed using the remotes, which I have never done. The main control module was replaced, but the problem remains. I would appreciate any information you may have about this problem.
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2009 Maxima v 2009 Mazda6 by aviboy97
Nov 17, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Hey everyone-
  
I'm doing a little homework here for my in-laws for they are considering trading their 2004 Maxima for either a 2009 Maxima 3.5 SV (possibly with tech) or a 2009 Mazda6 s GT (possibly with Nav).
  
They are similar in size, although the Max is bigger which is not a good thing in their eyes since they thought the 04 was a bit too big. They are very similarly equipped too. The Mazda has Bluetooth, Xenons, leather, dual climate, fuel computer, every safety feature under the Sun and Blind Sport Monitor detection system, something the Max does not have. TO get Xenons on the Max, you need to get Nav. Not the case with Mazda, since they are standard.
  
Power goes to Max with 290hp / 261 tq vs Mazda's 272 hp / 269 tq. Fuel economy is similar, however, the Max recommends Premium, is that correct?
  
The price advantage will go the the Mazda as well, for I can get them the Mazda6 s GT w/ Nav, moon roof / Bose Audio / Sirius radio for under $30,000. What are the Maxima's selling for? Particularly the SV with Tech, Bluetooth and Xenons?
  
BTW, I work for Mazda, so there is no need to educate me on the 6. I don't wanna hear any Ford talk either. Ford does not build or engineer the Mazda6. I'm really looking for useful input on the Maxima. Thanks in advance!

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