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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#6763 of 6854 Re: How 2010 Taurus will affect 2009 prices [carolinabob]
Oct 28, 2008 (11:22 am)
No offense Carolinabob...Hyundai has always undercut the competition on price, that has ALWAYS been their niche. Fortuntately with nearly 60K miles on my '06 Azera, I haven't experienced the problems I have read in postings here on Carspace as well as Hyundai-Forums. What Hyundai really needs to do is bring in an American consultant to work with them on the suspention tuning. They take care of that main issue and the rest is a cake walk. As far as pricing goes...they really don't have to address pricing...their cars are priced quite fairly in my opinion. Folks just need to accept the fact that Hyundai has grown up and and a $40K Hyundai exists!
#6764 of 6854 Re: How 2010 Taurus will affect 2009 prices [carolinabob]
Oct 28, 2008 (1:06 pm)
So let me be more direct here, obviously I didn't make myself clear earlier
You said, "Hyundai needs to spend the money to get the cars designed right from the ground up"
Hyundai spent over 530 million dollars to develop the Genesis from the ground up.
Re; pricing, spend a little more to get it correct and then charge accordingly instead of trying to dramatically undercut the competetion on price.
If the Genesis price range doesn't make sense, how much were you thinking?
As for the ride of the Genesis, there are obviously room for improvement, no doubt; nonethless, it is a good one, a very good first attempt. The Genesis has a very balanced ride, think somewhere in between the GS and the 5er. By the way, I disagree with your position the MKS rides much better than the Genesis - to me, the MKS rode a little soft in comparison to the Genesis.
#6765 of 6854 Impala-My impressions
Nov 06, 2008 (10:17 am)
I just drove a rental 2008 white Chevy Impala LT with about 4300 miles on it for two weeks in New England on vacation. Put about 700 miles on it. Having not driven this generation of Impala before, I was curious about what GM's latest version was. For the record, I drive a 2000 Ford Taurus SES with the DOHC 3.0 V-6, with 75K miles on it. I have not read any of the 6700+ posts here.
My impressions: On the plus side it was quite quiet, had a smooth ride, shifted and braked well, and had a large nicely shaped trunk with linkage hinges so as to make most of the trunk space useable.
On the minus side, handling was somewhat remote, and road noise at times seemed higher than my Taurus is, though both were acceptable in my mind.
What I really did not like were the outside rear view mirrors which were small, oddly triangular shaped, and the white body color housing was very distracting. The center console dash lights reflected in the top of the windshield at night, and the other gage lights behind the steering wheel reflected in the drivers side door window AND in the rear view mirror!
Also the cupholders were way too far back in the console, and the armrest on the console was also too far back and poorly cushioned.
The rear seats on this model at least, didn't fold down.
Front seat comfort was not as good as my Taurus. My rear ached after anything longer than a 1 hour drive.
The visors were too small and did not block sun in the upper corners.
I detested the fake burled wood on the dash. It looked cheap.
Most of these negatives would not be deal breakers for me, except for the poor outside mirrors, the reflections of the dash lights in the glass, the cupholder placement, the center armrest problem and the less than ideal front seat comfort. These items would definitely make me shop elsewhere.
#6766 of 6854 Re: Impala-My impressions [badgerfan]
Nov 06, 2008 (6:40 pm)
I had a similar car in Miami several weeks ago and used to own a 2000 Taurus until I got fed up with the constant repairs once it was out of warranty. I thought the Impala road nicer than the Taurus on the highway, but the Taurus was a better driver. You are right that the seat backs are the killer on the Impala. They are terrible after a few hours. Taurus seats in an Impala would make a nice highway car if reliability improved. What's with the current Taurus - all that back seat legroom, but cramped driver's leg room further aggravated by intruding wheel wells?
#6767 of 6854 Re: Impala-My impressions [berri]
Nov 06, 2008 (8:55 pm)
What's with the current Taurus - all that back seat legroom, but cramped driver's leg room further aggravated by intruding wheel wells?
CRAMPED Driver's Legroom? I'm 6'5" (with a short torso, long legs) and find there to be plentiful legroom front and back (I tend to sit with the seat all the way back in every car or full size truck I've driven). The real aggrivating thing is the lack of a telescoping steering wheel, although I think the Impala lacks this also, right?
#6768 of 6854 Re: Impala-My impressions [thegraduate]
Nov 07, 2008 (5:31 am)
CRAMPED Driver's Legroom
Every car is different for some people. For example when I drove the Genesis I felt it wasn't as roomy as my '06 Avalon, but the #s would say it is. Just my body type I guess.
#6769 of 6854 Re: Impala-My impressions [thegraduate]
Nov 07, 2008 (6:18 am)
I have a 2008 Sable, and also find the drivers legroom ample. It has power adjustable pedals, and by adjusting them and the seat, the need for a telescoping steering wheel is diminished. Since my wife is shorter than I am, the memory settings come in handy.
#6770 of 6854 Re: Impala-My impressions [tjc78]
Nov 07, 2008 (7:43 am)
I think it has everything to do with how and individual sets the seat up. I'm 6'2" tall and when I tested the Genesis, I had no issues with leg room at all. Even with the seat in the position I needed, it left ample room for the back seat as well.
#6771 of 6854 Re: Impala-My impressions [allmet33]
Nov 07, 2008 (8:42 am)
Well sure, its different person-to-person. I was just surprised because as a 6'5" guy, I'm used to having legroom issues EVERYWHERE but never having headroom problems. Heck, I have an Accord Sedan with a moonroof and can adjust my power seat almost all the way up with no problems. All my height is in my legs, and the Taurus felt plenty roomy up front.
Don't get me wrong though, you guys know I'm not so hard-headed as to believe where I'm comfortable, others may not be!
#6772 of 6854 Re: Avalon as "least expensive" [ronsmith38]
Nov 07, 2008 (9:05 am)
"I predict that gas will hit $3 before $8! Once the speculation factor goes away."
You said it way back in June. Helluva good call, Ron.