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6844 messages, Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM
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I consider the 2008 Mercury Sable (or Ford Taurus) to be a pretty good car. The new Ford CEO has essentially apologized for the "homer simpson" appearance and lack of sportiness and promised that the 2010 version will be a much more attactive and performance oriented vehicle. A different chassis, a different enine, etc. Spy photos have appeared that show a major change. Fine. I wonder how the knowledge that the present Taurus/Sable is to be phased out by 2010 will affect the price of these 2009 models. I would expect it to come down but perhaps they will throttle down the production so that there is no surplus of 2009's. Any thoughts on whether the price of the 2008-2009 Taurus/Sable will drop as we approach 2010?
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Replying to: pod (Sep 12, 2008 2:32 pm) BTW, I have given up on Hyundai after the 3rd set of new shocks on my 07 Azera with only 11,000 miles are deterioriating. I also test drove three different Genesis' and concur with Automobile Magazine, Car and Driver and others who reported significant deficiencies in the Genesis suspension. Also drove an MKS, it rides a lot better than the Genesis, but does need more power if accelerating up steep hills or interstate entry ramps. The Genesis (and Azera) have tremendous potential, but Hyundai needs to spend the money to get the cars designed right from the ground up, insure quality and then determine the price of the car. |
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This forum has gotten QUIET! A few questions to bring back the conversation... Let's discuss changes available for 2009 on these vehicles. I know the Chrysler models got a bump in V8 power. What else? Has Hyundai changed the Azera at all since it came out? The Buick Lucerne CX and CXL now come standard with a more powerful & efficient 3.9L, replacing the 3.8L motor. Would that change your mind in car shopping? Does anybody here have the new Maxima? How about the G8?
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 27, 2008 7:58 am) That's all I have on the Azera. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 27, 2008 7:58 am) Nope... still not what should be in the "flagship" Buick. As has been said many times... there are better choices. As for the new Max.. I didn't drive one but did check it out and sat in it. The interior is very nice, however I am not sure that it fits into the large sedan category any longer. It certainly seems smaller inside than the previous generation. I think one of the reasons this thread is quiet is because in general the large car market is not doing all that well. Although gas has been dropping people still are going for more fuel efficient vehicles. |
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 27, 2008 8:33 am)  )are still driving those large cars, to the best of my knowledge! I agree about the 3.9L. They should put the 3.6L/6sp in it and be done with the thirsty Northstar.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 27, 2008 8:50 am) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 27, 2008 8:50 am) Imagine the entire top half of the engine gone - no timing chain, no camshafts, no valve assembly, no having to deal with oil as well or a myriad of other problems. Keeping the air/fuel and oil separate in the engine is huge by itself - no chance of problems there. And the head can be made out of essentially un-warpable materials or the engine could be made without a head entirely(no upper gaskets) Lighter, cheaper, more reliable, and far better fuel economy. Valves and compression getting poor? It'll adjust the clearances on the fly - and if it's really shot, replace the module and go on your way. Not holding my breath, though.
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Replying to: plekto (Oct 27, 2008 1:06 pm) Funny thing is...GM is using direct injection on the 3.6 in the Outlook/Acadia. Oh...my bad, they were talking about switching to it. Actually...what they do have currently is the SIDI...spark ignition direct injection. GM Press Release |
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Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 09, 2008 11:00 am) I must have missed the memo about how Hyundai didn't spend enough money to put the Genesis from sketch to production; I've also likely missed the memo about its quality and correct pricing - silly me... |
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