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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Genesis [zier] by louiswei
Aug 19, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: zier (Aug 18, 2008 5:19 pm)

None of the wood trims in the Genesis are real.
 
Period.
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Re: Genesis [tjc78] by jg585
Aug 19, 2008 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Aug 14, 2008 7:28 am)

The seat in my ’07 Lucerne is SO uncomfortable is cripples me. I love the ride, but the seat is a killer. Dealer stuffed it twice. Still terrible. I have to use a Homedics seat pad.
As it approachs 50,000 mi I want to dump it before the warrantee expires. My body likes a Nissan Altima. Chrysler 300 wasn’t bad. Honda Accord so so, VW Passat too short in the seat bottom and so on and so on. Too bad as I like the Lucerne.
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Re: Lucerne Seat by rpfingsten
Aug 20, 2008 (2:27 am)
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Replying to: jg585 (Aug 19, 2008 5:41 pm)

Jg585..... have to agree with you about the seats in the Lucerne. When I was in the market for a car, I nearly bought the Lucerne. Loved the ride, actually found the ride to be better than my Avalon, but I do remember telling my wife that I just didn't feel comfortable in the seats. I attributed it to my being 275 lbs, but my wife said the same thing when she drove it, and she only weighs 120 lbs. Other than that I really liked the car. Although I think for my purposes I was better off buying the Avalon.
 
Roland
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Re: Genesis [jg585] by tjc78
Aug 20, 2008 (4:02 am)
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Replying to: jg585 (Aug 19, 2008 5:41 pm)

Too bad as I like the Lucerne.
 
I would definately give the Avalon a drive and also go test drive a Hyundai Genesis. Its a very nice machine, I drove one recently and am seriously considering replacing my '06 Avalon with one early next year when my lease is up.
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2009 Maxima vs. Avalon by schmave717
Aug 22, 2008 (5:59 pm)
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I'm tempted by the 2009 Maxima (I own a 2000) but just saw one (didn't get to test one) today, and it looks small. I could fit 5 adults in the 2000 but doubt I can do it with the '09, which has a big bump in the middle of the back seat.
 
The Avalon looks like better size-wise, but am I giving up anything in performance? I love the woosh of the initial acceleration on the Max and would rather not give it up.
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Re: 2009 Maxima vs. Avalon [schmave717] by thegraduate
Aug 22, 2008 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: schmave717 (Aug 22, 2008 5:59 pm)

The Avalon looks like better size-wise, but am I giving up anything in performance? I love the woosh of the initial acceleration on the Max and would rather not give it up.
 
If you love the acceleration in your 222 horse Maxima, the 268 horsepower Avalon should be MUCH more than enough, and deliver notably better economy at the same time.
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Re: 2009 Maxima vs. Avalon [schmave717] by rpfingsten
Aug 23, 2008 (2:18 am)
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Replying to: schmave717 (Aug 22, 2008 5:59 pm)

Schmave717
 
     I doubt you'll be giving up anything in performance, in fact I believe you'll be gaining performance. The avy engine cranks out 268 Hp, compared to something like 220 on the Maxima. And as far as comfort, the Avalon has plenty of room inside and is very comfortable. One of the nice features about the avy is the back seat, the floor is almost completely flat so if you have 3 people in the back, whoever is sitting in the middle dosn't have to swing their feet over to one side or the other. Also the back seats recline, about 10 degrees. Dosn't sound like much, but on a long trip the people in the back really appreciate it. Good luck.
 
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Re: 2009 Maxima vs. Avalon [schmave717] by tjc78
Aug 23, 2008 (2:52 am)
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Replying to: schmave717 (Aug 22, 2008 5:59 pm)

Comparing a new Avalon to your Maxima.... you will be gaining interior room, gaining straight line accleration, probably a MPG or two, but you will be losing some handling. If you like a stiffer ride, definately look for a "Touring" model. Having said that I own a 2006 XLS and love it. Has only been to the shop for oil changes and consistently gets over 20 MPG with my heavy foot and virtually no highway driving that isn't gridlocked. I like the balance of ride and handling which is on the soft side. Also, in this price range it wouldn't hurt to check out the Hyundai Genesis if you don't mind going to RWD.
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Re: 2009 Maxima vs. Avalon [tjc78] by schmave717
Aug 23, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Aug 23, 2008 2:52 am)

Thanks to all who responded. One follow-up, if I may. Any other cars I ought to consider? Handling is definitely a consideration, as I love the way the old Max responds in steering and grips the road in turns. I'm not a rear wheel drive guy, so the Genesis is out.
 
Any other thoughts? I hate to go too expensive, but is there an Acura I should consider? Any GMs? Any other thoughts?
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If they are serious with the Genesis by allavalons
Aug 23, 2008 (3:37 pm)
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If they are thinking of comparing the Genesis to a Lexus or Acura, as some have suggested in this forum, then they better think about creating a new division and brand the parts with the new name. They should learn from Honda. When Honda started making Acura you could open the hood and see a lot of parts stamped Honda, It took Acura years to overcome that gaffe..
Same thing with VW and the Phaeton, a great car but no one would buy a $70K car with the VW on the front grille.
The old sideways H does not have the cache to be able to go upscale and be successful in this market. If they compete against Toyota, Honda, Nissan and the Little 3 in Detroit they will be a niche with this vehicle, it's just a stretch to put close to $40K on the table for a loaded Hyundai no matter what they call it.

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