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Mainstream Large Sedans Comparison

6844 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 1st impression 2009 Maxima [louiswei] by allmet33
Jul 29, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jul 29, 2008 7:28 am)

Come on Louis...a problem?
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Come on guys by pat HOST
Jul 29, 2008 (11:26 am)
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move on, please
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Re: Come on guys [pat] by louiswei
Jul 29, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Jul 29, 2008 11:26 am)

move on, please
 
Pat, if you can't sense the humor in the last couple posts then that's pretty sad...
 
That's all I have to say.
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Re: Come on guys [louiswei] by allmet33
Jul 29, 2008 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jul 29, 2008 12:40 pm)

Thank you Louis, I'm glad we were on the same page this time.
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Re: Come on guys [louiswei] by pat HOST
Jul 29, 2008 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jul 29, 2008 12:40 pm)

Move on please.
 
Is that better?
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Genesis by rpfingsten
Aug 14, 2008 (2:38 am)
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Ok boys, after hearing all the hoopla about the Genisis, I finally made my way over to the dealership last Sunday and looked one over. I will admit that the car is "somewhat" attractive. Nice lines. It should be noted that I did not drive the car ( dealerships locked up on Sunday ) so it was pretty much just a look/see. Peering thru the window, I can't say that I was overly impressed with the interior. To be honest I prefer the interior of my Avy to the Genesis. Also, the interior of the Genesis appeared to be alittle smaller than the Avalon. For most people, the difference in size is probably not a big deal, but I'm bumping 270 lbs so interior comfort is important to me. The engine in the Genesis cranks out a few more hp than the avy, but here again, the ponies generated by the avy power plant is more than sufficent for me. I did like the warranty on the Genesis, If memory serves me, it's a 5 yr, 75k bumper to bumper...much better than the Toyota 3 / 36K. The sticker on the Genesis was an even 40K. In my opinion too much for that car. For less $ I could buy a new Es 350 or even a new Avalon XLS or Limited. Another thing that concerns me, first year models.. never have been a big fan of "first year" production. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the Genesis is a good car, but for 40 grand, seems to me to be alittle more hype than the car is worth. jmo
 
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Re: Genesis [rpfingsten] by allmet33
Aug 14, 2008 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Aug 14, 2008 2:38 am)

You know...looking in and sitting in give you two different impressions. I thought the interior of the Genesis seemed to be no bigger than that of my Azera...until I sat in it. It is bigger than it appears to be once you are sitting inside.
 
You COULD pay less and get an ES350, but you're getting a lot less car in doing so, dropping down to a mid-sized sedan as opposed to the large sedan that the Genesis is. As discussed in the Genesis Forum, the Genesis is more comparable to the GS in terms of what you get for the money. Best statment so far, LS size, GS handling & comfort...IS price.
 
Oh yeah, the warranty is 10 yr/100K mi. powertrain, 5 yr/60K mi. new vehicle, 7 yr/Unlimited mi. anti-perforation, 5 yr/Unlimited mi. 24-hour roadside assist, 12mo/12K mi. replacment parts & accessory, 8 yr/80K mil emission & performance. Where did you see 5yr/75K mi???
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Re: Genesis [rpfingsten] by tjc78
Aug 14, 2008 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Aug 14, 2008 2:38 am)

Also, the interior of the Genesis appeared to be alittle smaller than the Avalon
 
I own an '06 AV XLS and I touched on this on the Genesis forum. I don't care what the #s say the Avalon is larger inside. I can fully extend my leg in my Av and the seat isn't all the way back (I'm 6'). In the Genesis my leg was slightly bent and the seat was all the way back. The back seat also had a touch less room than the Av behind the drivers seat (set up for me). It definately wouldn't be a deal breaker but the Genesis is smaller inside. As for the car itself it is a nice ride. The handling is great (much more controlled than the Av) and the interior materials are as nice or better than the Avalon. The car is quiet and there is plenty of power. However, Hyundai's 3.8 is not as refined as the Toyota 2GR it simply doesn't have the willingness the rev that the Yota has. My Avalon also felt quicker but benefit of the doubt the Genesis I drove was not broken in yet.
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Re: Genesis [tjc78] by allmet33
Aug 14, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Aug 14, 2008 5:58 am)

I don't care what the #s say the Avalon is larger inside.
 
Hey Tjc78...numbers don't lie!
 
Seriously...I don't know how you had everything set up, but I'm 6'2", 215 lbs., and found there to be PLENTY of room in both the front and rear seats for someone of my size.
 
I set the driver's seat up for me to drive and I got out and got behind the driver's seat in the back...the seat back was 2" away from my knees. It seems you're being unfair in comparing the two...you say in your Avy...the seat isn't all the way back and you have room, but in the Genesis the seat is all the way back and you don't. Why don't you try setting the driver's seat up for how you would be sitting if you were driving, and then get behind it.
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Re: Genesis [allmet33] by tjc78
Aug 14, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Aug 14, 2008 6:44 am)

I think i am comparing them fairly.... first of all the Genesis is plenty roomy for me. Second I am just noting that there is more available leg room in the front of the Avalon. I am not imagining things, the seat was all the way back and adjusted for me (down it the back, slightly raised in the front) the exact way I sit in my Avalon, and my leg was slightly bent. In my Avalon my leg is fully extended and the seat still can go back a little. As for the rear seat room I was comparing them with my seat set for me in either car. The Avalon was still a touch roomier. Like I said its not a deal breaker either way, just an observation. I still also contend that the interior #s should only be used as a guide. You must try out the car for your body type. Heck my GF has an Elantra and I can't believe that at 6' 275 I am comfortable in it (front only of course). However, we still take the Avalon most of the time

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