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Mainstream Large Sedans Comparison

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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jul 24, 2008 9:45 am)

Top 10 Losers: Non-Luxury Sedans, Wagons and Hatchbacks (Current Models)
 
What I found appears to be the amount of "lot time" a car has, although the site wasn't clear. This is for the month of May, and looks bad for the Ford twins as well as the Kia.
 
2008 Mercury Grand Marquis: 223 days
2008 Ford Taurus: 120 days
2008 Mercury Sable: 119 days
2008 Kia Amanti: 117 days
2008 Dodge Avenger: 96 days
2008 Buick Lucerne: 87 days
2008 Mazda6 hatchback 86 days
2008 Chrysler Sebring: 77 days

2008 Chrysler 300: 73 days
2008 Buick LaCrosse: 69 days
 
The top 10 winners for May:
 
Top 10 Movers: Non-Luxury Sedans, Wagons and Hatchbacks
 
2008 Toyota Prius: 11 days
2009 Toyota Camry Hybrid: 17 days
2008 Mazda5: 23 days

2008 Pontiac G8: 23 days
2008 Chevy Malibu: 24 days
2008 Chevy Impala: 29 days
2009 Toyota Camry: 31 days
2008 VW Jetta: 33 days
2009 Hyundai Sonata: 36 days

2008 Toyota Avalon: 37 days
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Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate] by allmet33
Jul 24, 2008 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2008 9:56 am)

I understand that, but if you go and read the 2007 Road Test on the Inside Line...the reviewer said the Amanti isn't for everyone, but for those that aren't looking for driving dynamics, but want touches of luxury for less than $27K...the Amanti will give them just that. He doesn't say that it'll fly off the lots and I can only tell you what I observe in my daily driving. Every area won't see the same thing. Heck, here I can run across Azeras now on a daily basis. A trip to Atlanta, I saw two (one on the way there and one on the way back), but didn't encounter any IN Atl. Same for Dallas too.
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Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jul 24, 2008 10:03 am)

The Amanti is another Buick it sounds like... I'm not finding fault with how the car drives or behaves from behind the wheel (i've never driven one, how could I? )
 
I just NEVER see Kia Amanits. Azeras? Yes. I can honestly say that I see many more of the new Taurus Sedan than I see Amantis. That's saying something, considering the Taurus isn't selling well.
 
Request: Can anyone link me to some sales numbers of these cars? Not specific; it can be by month, YTD, etc... I really don't care. I'd just like to compare.
 
Thanks!
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Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate] by allmet33
Jul 24, 2008 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2008 10:08 am)

I think you are right...the true Korean Buick. Like you, I've never driven the Amanti either. However, after seeing the one my wife's uncle was driving...I was curious to find out how it does drive compared to the Azera.
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Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate] by joe97
Jul 24, 2008 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2008 10:08 am)

Request: Can anyone link me to some sales numbers of these cars? Not specific; it can be by month, YTD, etc... I really don't care. I'd just like to compare.
 
Break out the bubbly, Kia sold 1,117 Amantis in June, more than triple the amount compared to the same period last year Still down YTD, however:
 
http://www.kiamedia.com/secure/corporate070108.html
 
Azera here:
 
http://www.hyundainews.com/Corporate_News/Sales_Releases/07_01_2008_2786.asp
 
Probably one of the few large cars not off by 20-30% or more this year to date compared to last
 
Taurus:
 
http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=28526
 
Sharp decrease in June but in the same condiition as with all other large cars.
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Re: Kia Amanti [joe97] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jul 24, 2008 10:55 am)

Considering the 2008 Taurus wasn't really fully moving at this time last year (or was it?) I wouldn't write the Taurus off as a sales victory/loss just yet, as much as I like the car.
 
Thanks for working on finding me the links though, joe. I really appreciate it!
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Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate] by jontyrees
Jul 24, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2008 10:57 am)

I'm starting to see a few Tauruses around Austin - a couple in my neighborhood, one down at the golf club. Everyone that rides in mine is impressed - it's obviously a great car for taking a few coworkers to lunch.
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Re: 1st impression 2009 Maxima [allmet33] by cyberpunk
Jul 25, 2008 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jul 22, 2008 6:16 am)

I have to completely disagree. I don't see anybody confusing the '09 Maxima with the Civic, from behind.
 
And I have seen them both in person - I own both the '09 Maxima and an '07 Civic.
 
The Maxima is bigger. The sheet metal is much more aggressively flaired. The shape of the tailights is completely different. The Maxima has dual exhausts out the back. The shape of the trunks is different. The only thing both backends have in common is the line the trunk opening makes as it heads down towards the bumper...a line that is in almost universal use, I might add.
 
Finally, the Maxima is simply much better looking, when comparing the back of the two cars.
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Re: 1st impression 2009 Maxima [cyberpunk] by hjc1
Jul 26, 2008 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: cyberpunk (Jul 25, 2008 2:51 pm)

That's what I like about this country.... Everyone has an opinion good or bad.
Maybe If only one person was left - all our countries problems would be solved
We wouldn't have too worry about the Dems not wanting to drill for oil or the Repub. wanting to. ETC ETC ETC
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Re: 1st impression 2009 Maxima [hjc1] by cdmuile
Jul 26, 2008 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: hjc1 (Jul 26, 2008 7:15 am)

Yeah, but how could all the people who don't believe what I believe 'be so terribly' wrong?

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