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Mainstream Large Sedans Comparison

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Re: Kia Amanti [joe97] by allmet33
Jul 24, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jul 24, 2008 7:31 am)

I think the new platform is the same size, they just built it differently to be lighter. If you read that Road Test, they said the newer platform that the Amanti and Azera sit on is some 200 lbs lighter than the previous XG platform. Same size, less weight...that's a good thing.
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Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33] by joe97
Jul 24, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jul 24, 2008 7:53 am)

The Azera's wheelbase is 1.1 in. longer than the XG.
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Re: Kia Amanti [joe97] by allmet33
Jul 24, 2008 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jul 24, 2008 9:15 am)

Okay...then they did slightly lengthen and lighten it then. However, it could still be a revised version of the XG platform. I would find it hard that Hyundai would have come up with an altogether brand new platform for the Azera when all they had to do was tweak the one the XG was riding on. Then again, I could be wrong.
 
However, the point is now...the Amanti and Azera share platforms.
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Re: Kia Amanti [joe97] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2008 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jul 24, 2008 7:31 am)

Good GRIEF! Why didn't they change the exterior design if they went to all the trouble of changing the guts? The exterior design (to me) is the absolute worst on the sedan market. Yes, the sedan market, not just large mainstream sedans.
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Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate] by allmet33
Jul 24, 2008 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2008 9:29 am)

Well...they made some subtle changes, but I guess they wanted to keep a car that was unique to the Kia nameplate. It borrows design keys, but is definitely the Amanti. It's not going to appeal to everyone, which is why it hasn't been talked up much in this forum. However, there are some that believe it to be the true sleeper that folks won't see coming...a dark horse to speak.
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Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2008 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jul 24, 2008 9:35 am)

Unless sales have spiked since the last time I checked, that horse is so dark it can't be seen in the shadows of the actual competition!
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Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate] by allmet33
Jul 24, 2008 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2008 9:40 am)

That may be true, I think between the Amanti and the Azera...the Azera is the clear winner here. However, I have to admit...I do see quite a few Amantis on the road here in the DC area. I see them more frequently than I see Azeras and that's no bull.
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Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Top 10 Losers: Non-Luxury Sedans, Wagons and Hatchbacks (Current Models)
 
What I found appears to be the amount of "lot time" a car has, although the site wasn't clear. This is for the month of May, and looks bad for the Ford twins as well as the Kia.
 
2008 Mercury Grand Marquis: 223 days
2008 Ford Taurus: 120 days
2008 Mercury Sable: 119 days
2008 Kia Amanti: 117 days
2008 Dodge Avenger: 96 days
2008 Buick Lucerne: 87 days
2008 Mazda6 hatchback 86 days
2008 Chrysler Sebring: 77 days

2008 Chrysler 300: 73 days
2008 Buick LaCrosse: 69 days
 
The top 10 winners for May:
 
Top 10 Movers: Non-Luxury Sedans, Wagons and Hatchbacks
 
2008 Toyota Prius: 11 days
2009 Toyota Camry Hybrid: 17 days
2008 Mazda5: 23 days

2008 Pontiac G8: 23 days
2008 Chevy Malibu: 24 days
2008 Chevy Impala: 29 days
2009 Toyota Camry: 31 days
2008 VW Jetta: 33 days
2009 Hyundai Sonata: 36 days

2008 Toyota Avalon: 37 days
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Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate] by allmet33
Jul 24, 2008 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2008 9:56 am)

I understand that, but if you go and read the 2007 Road Test on the Inside Line...the reviewer said the Amanti isn't for everyone, but for those that aren't looking for driving dynamics, but want touches of luxury for less than $27K...the Amanti will give them just that. He doesn't say that it'll fly off the lots and I can only tell you what I observe in my daily driving. Every area won't see the same thing. Heck, here I can run across Azeras now on a daily basis. A trip to Atlanta, I saw two (one on the way there and one on the way back), but didn't encounter any IN Atl. Same for Dallas too.
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Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33] by thegraduate
Jul 24, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jul 24, 2008 10:03 am)

The Amanti is another Buick it sounds like... I'm not finding fault with how the car drives or behaves from behind the wheel (i've never driven one, how could I? )
 
I just NEVER see Kia Amanits. Azeras? Yes. I can honestly say that I see many more of the new Taurus Sedan than I see Amantis. That's saying something, considering the Taurus isn't selling well.
 
Request: Can anyone link me to some sales numbers of these cars? Not specific; it can be by month, YTD, etc... I really don't care. I'd just like to compare.
 
Thanks!

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