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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#6650 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [joe97]
Jul 24, 2008 (5:46 am)
Joe97...as knowledgable as you are usually, I'm surprised to see that you don't know that the newer Amanti's share a whole lot with the Azera now. The earlier ones shared the XG platform and one of the complaints was that the engine was too weak for that car. My wife's uncle sells Kias and he was driving a new model Amanti. I have to admit, you can see the differences from the older ones if you just stop and look at it. It made me go back and take a look at the specs on the car, lo and behold...it now shares the platform and underpinnings of the Azera, along with the 3.8 V-6.
Although the new 2007 Kia Amanti is roughly the same size as before, it now shares all major underpinnings with Hyundai's well-regarded Azera, and as a result, the full-size Kia sedan weighs about 200 pounds less than before.
2007 Kia Amanti Road Test
I think the Amanti will be around as long as the Azera is, especially with the changes that have actually made it a much better car. As I was saying earlier, the newer ones look similar to the older ones, but if you really look...the differences are visible and it's just enough change to make the Amanti a much more pleasing car to look at.
#6651 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33]
Jul 24, 2008 (7:31 am)
I must have been feeding wrong information then. Thanks guys!!
Interesting to note, however, the wheelbase of the Amanti, prior to the the facelift (up to 2006 model year) is the same as after (2007MY and on).
#6652 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [joe97]
Jul 24, 2008 (7:53 am)
I think the new platform is the same size, they just built it differently to be lighter. If you read that Road Test, they said the newer platform that the Amanti and Azera sit on is some 200 lbs lighter than the previous XG platform. Same size, less weight...that's a good thing.
#6653 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33]
Jul 24, 2008 (9:15 am)
The Azera's wheelbase is 1.1 in. longer than the XG.
#6654 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [joe97]
Jul 24, 2008 (9:28 am)
Okay...then they did slightly lengthen and lighten it then. However, it could still be a revised version of the XG platform. I would find it hard that Hyundai would have come up with an altogether brand new platform for the Azera when all they had to do was tweak the one the XG was riding on. Then again, I could be wrong.
However, the point is now...the Amanti and Azera share platforms.
#6655 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [joe97]
Jul 24, 2008 (9:29 am)
Good GRIEF! Why didn't they change the exterior design if they went to all the trouble of changing the guts? The exterior design (to me) is the absolute worst on the sedan market. Yes, the sedan market, not just large mainstream sedans.
#6656 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate]
Jul 24, 2008 (9:35 am)
Well...they made some subtle changes, but I guess they wanted to keep a car that was unique to the Kia nameplate. It borrows design keys, but is definitely the Amanti. It's not going to appeal to everyone, which is why it hasn't been talked up much in this forum. However, there are some that believe it to be the true sleeper that folks won't see coming...a dark horse to speak.
#6657 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33]
Jul 24, 2008 (9:40 am)
Unless sales have spiked since the last time I checked, that horse is so dark it can't be seen in the shadows of the actual competition!
#6658 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [thegraduate]
Jul 24, 2008 (9:45 am)
That may be true, I think between the Amanti and the Azera...the Azera is the clear winner here. However, I have to admit...I do see quite a few Amantis on the road here in the DC area. I see them more frequently than I see Azeras and that's no bull.
#6659 of 6854 Re: Kia Amanti [allmet33]
Jul 24, 2008 (9:56 am)
Top 10 Losers: Non-Luxury Sedans, Wagons and Hatchbacks (Current Models)
What I found appears to be the amount of "lot time" a car has, although the site wasn't clear. This is for the month of May, and looks bad for the Ford twins as well as the Kia.
2008 Mercury Grand Marquis: 223 days
2008 Ford Taurus: 120 days
2008 Mercury Sable: 119 days
2008 Kia Amanti: 117 days
2008 Dodge Avenger: 96 days
2008 Buick Lucerne: 87 days
2008 Mazda6 hatchback 86 days
2008 Chrysler Sebring: 77 days
2008 Chrysler 300: 73 days
2008 Buick LaCrosse: 69 days
The top 10 winners for May:
Top 10 Movers: Non-Luxury Sedans, Wagons and Hatchbacks
2008 Toyota Prius: 11 days
2009 Toyota Camry Hybrid: 17 days
2008 Mazda5: 23 days
2008 Pontiac G8: 23 days
2008 Chevy Malibu: 24 days
2008 Chevy Impala: 29 days
2009 Toyota Camry: 31 days
2008 VW Jetta: 33 days
2009 Hyundai Sonata: 36 days
2008 Toyota Avalon: 37 days