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What is this discussion about? Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: "O Brother Where Art Thou/thegraduate [thegraduate] by popsavalon
Jul 05, 2008 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 04, 2008 7:52 pm)

"considering what the competition offers similar to the Avalon for a lot less"......I'm curious (but not prejudice), give me some examples.
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Re: "O Brother Where Art Thou/thegraduate [popsavalon] by thegraduate
Jul 05, 2008 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: popsavalon (Jul 05, 2008 10:22 am)

Specifically, I was thinking of my parents' new car. They paid $22k Out the Door ($20,844 + TTL) for a Ford Taurus with Leather, Dual Climate Control, Auto Headlamps, 6CD, SYNC Voice Activated Media and Bluetooth Phone, Satellite Radio, 263hp, 18/28 MPG, class leading interior room, trunk space, and a Top Pick in Safety.
 
The Avalon is a really great car, but it doesn't strike me as nearly 30% better. Obviously different people have different tastes, and are willing to pay for the "Lexus without an L badge" and I understand that.
 
The exterior style of the Taurus isn't looked at as beautiful by many. I find it pretty conservative and don't care too much for the chrome grill. Luckily, their new car is silver, which keeps the chrome from looking flashy or "bling-bling" looking. The Avalon's front-end is frumpy to me, and no better looking than the Ford. Both are great cars, and my parents' actually wanted an Avalon after driving one of their friends' Avalon Limited, but couldn't justify the extra thousands of dollars.
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Re: "O Brother Where Art Thou/thegraduate [thegraduate] by auld_dawg
Jul 05, 2008 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 05, 2008 10:37 am)

With a $2500 factory rebate right now for the remaining 08 Azeras, and a $2000 rebate for the 09s, I suspect that one could get a real good buy there too, though it looks more like 24k to 25k out the door......... At the moment, the Azera "Prices Paid" forum is a bit bare of current sales prices, but I'd suspect my price guesses are pretty close.........
 
I'd have to think that at this time, the Taurus your parents got is a really good value. My thought on the Taurus and Azera is that they are roughly equivalent cars.........
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Re: "O Brother Where Art Thou/thegraduate [auld_dawg] by thegraduate
Jul 05, 2008 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: auld_dawg (Jul 05, 2008 11:54 am)

I certainly like the looks of the Azera better than the Taurus, but after pricing some cars, the local Hyundai dealers weren't moving enough on their price. The Ford dealer gave me the $22k OTD quote with no negotiations. I asked for a base, no options Taurus for $20k OTD. He had no base model Taurus SELs, but seeing as he offered a car with $2,300 more in options for $2,000 more, the deal just couldn't be passed up. The best part of it all is that the dealer was low-pressure. The salesman had been VERY patient with me (I've been talking to him for several months while my folks decided). The finance manager offered the extended warranty, and when my folks declined, that was it. No more asking about it.
 
There was no trade-in to make the deal more complicated.
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Re: Best at: ? Worst at: ? [batista] by jg585
Jul 08, 2008 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: batista (Jul 03, 2008 6:18 pm)

I have been considering a Chrysler 300. Seats in my Lucerne too uncomfortable. Will be off warrantee soon and want to trade while it still has some value. Any idiosyncrasies about the Charger that relate to the 300?
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Re: Best at: ? Worst at: ? [jg585] by batista
Jul 08, 2008 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: jg585 (Jul 08, 2008 5:40 am)

My 06 Charger has been way better than my previous car an 01 Impala so far.
The problems I have had is a small transmission leak that is easily fixed, back window condensation during clear cold winter nights and a bit of noise during turning manuevers that most likely means the tie rods need to be replaced.
I think you will be happy with it coming from a GM vehicle. I do recommend the Hemi if you do a lot of highway driving. The Chrysler 3.5L is much better than the GM 3.8L but not as refined as Toyotas or even GM's 3.6L.
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G8 vs 09 Maxima by alexstore
Jul 08, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Recently read in a car magazine a comparison of V8 G8 and 09 Maxima. Both cars are my favorites, but in that magazine they chose G8.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0808_nissan_maxima_vs_pontiac_g8/- index.html
which car would you chose?
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Re: G8 vs 09 Maxima [alexstore] by louiswei
Jul 08, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Jul 08, 2008 10:15 am)

This is a really tough choice...
 
On one hand I really like the way the G8 GT drives and its styling looks pretty sharp for a sports sedan but the interior is a turn off. The gauges, dashes, center console and center stack aren't too shabby but the rest of the detail like headliner and door panels are pretty poorly made. Not having full power seats for both the driver and passenger is a negative in my book as well.
 
On the other hand I am sure the Maxima has a much better interior in terms of quality but given its FWD setup I am sure it wouldn't handle as well as the G8 even without a test drive. Not a big fan of the exterior styling either...
 
The answer to the question is: Neither.
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Re: G8 vs 09 Maxima [alexstore] by allmet33
Jul 08, 2008 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: alexstore (Jul 08, 2008 10:15 am)

Why not add this one to your search? Looks like it'll give you a good balance of performance, luxury and value. And let me tell you...seeing it up close in person, the Genesis is STUNNING!!!
 
09 Genesis Review
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Re: G8 vs 09 Maxima [allmet33] by thegraduate
Jul 08, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jul 08, 2008 11:56 am)

The Genesis is one grill short of luxurious-looking, to me.

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