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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 02, 2008 11:27 am) The reason I ask is that the Lucerne is big and stylish, but it does labor under disadvantages in size, turning circle, reliability history and fuel economy. So, for those of us who aren't simply American-only loyalists, it has to win decisively in some area to rate serious consideration, even if its price is discounted down to parity. I'd think if there's any such area, it would be highway cruising comfort. Of course its V6 rivals aren't exactly slackers in that regard, either.
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Replying to: tonycd (Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am)
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Replying to: tonycd (Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am) The non CXS versions are nasty. In this case, it's all about the suspension. The Magnetic Ride suspension turns the car from just another Buick into a proper luxury sedan in how it rides. It's not as fast in a straight line, but honestly, do you see middle-aged and elderly people really needing to smoke the tires on any of these large barges? Go drive a CXS. It's not an old man's car any more. The Azera feels a notch down. A lot like the old Park Avenue, in fact. Good, but not the real deal(like a E class, DTS, or similar) The Avalon is nice, but lacking the suspension... yeah, it's just another bland Toyota. The ES is a nice notch above(there is no "Lexus" in Japan - all models are "Toyota" there), but the price is a bit silly. Doubly so if you are looking for used values. Buick and Cadillac are probably the top two makes to look at for a used full size luxury/semi-luxury sedan.
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 02, 2008 12:00 pm) Two years ago you'd be right but now you couldn't be anymore wrong... http://lexus.jp/ Lexus has been selling cars in Japan for more than 2 years now. There is also Lexus in Europe, Russia, Korea, China and Taiwan. As matter of fact Lexus is also the number 1 selling luxury brand in Taiwan.
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Replying to: louiswei (Jul 02, 2008 12:12 pm) Honestly, for a large car, the A8 is a very nice and often overlooked choice. the Volvo S80 also is as well.(though both have serious sticker shock, CPO is a whole other world more reasonably priced)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 02, 2008 12:40 pm) |
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Replying to: tonycd (Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am) When I was in the market for a new car about 18 months ago, the lucerne with the northstar was the car I intended to buy. Having had the northstar in a Deville that I was trading in, I really liked that engine. When I test drove the Lucerne and put my foot into it, the northstar had a nice "throaty" growl to it. The car itself was very nice, alittle old school maybe, but still a nice vehicle. And overall, I think the ride on the highway is better than the Avalon, but then again, I prefer the "sofa" soft ride to the "feel of the road" ride. I actually went to the dealer to sign the papers on the Lucerne when my wife talked me into going down the road and looking at the Avy... First thing I noticed was that the avy actually felt like it had more room than the buick, I also liked the interior of the avy more, but the clincher for me was the powerful V6 in the avy that still provided much better FE than the buick. Ended up with the avy, when I called the buick salesman back to let him know I was passing on the car, he told me that in almost every instance where he had a customer that compared the lucerne to the avalon, that nearly everyone of them opted for the avy. Take it for what it's worth. Roland
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 11:57 am) Can you try again, please? |
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Jul 03, 2008 2:35 am) |
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Replying to: tonycd (Jul 02, 2008 11:55 am) Honestly I don't think it does. Its not a bad vehicle its just not as good as the Avalon and Azera. Those two models beat Buick at their own game.... big, powerful highway cruisers. The CXL Lucerne does ride a bit softer than the Avalon on the highway and about the same as the Azera. The CXS is a bit firmer more like an Avalon touring. Maybe for some they just prefer the looks.. IMO it is better looking than the Avalon or Azera on the outside. I would love to know the % of Lucerne owners who owned Park Avs and LeSabres prior. I bet its pretty high. |
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